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Pfizer VS Moderna. 'When the syringe hits the epidermis.' Comparing the vaccines. (Page 1/2) |
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rinselberg
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DEC 21, 03:02 PM
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The ultra-cold storage requirement for Pfizer has been well publicized. Here's some other differences between the two vaccines.
The one thing that most caught my eye is the volumetric difference.
quote | Each dose of Pfizer’s contains 30 micrograms of vaccine. Moderna went with a much larger dose of vaccine, 100 micrograms. It means it is using a little more than three times as much vaccine per person as Pfizer is. And yet, they aren’t getting better results. |
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I wonder if that means that temporary discomfort at and around the injection site is more likely for the Moderna vaccine than for the Pfizer.
A side-by-side comparison, although I don't think people are going to be able to choose one or the other until 2021 is well underway:
Helen Branswell for STAT; December 19, 2020. https://www.statnews.com/20...nd-moderna-vaccines/
I had my seasonal influenza vaccination just the other day. I didn't even feel the syringe, really. Barely discernible. He was putting the small post-injection bandaid on my arm before I became aware that it had actually been done. No discernible aftereffects whatsoever. It was late Friday when I got it.
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Jake_Dragon
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DEC 21, 03:21 PM
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quote | Originally posted by rinselberg:
I had my seasonal influenza vaccination just the other day. I didn't even feel the syringe, really. Barely discernible. He was putting the small post-injection bandaid on my arm before I became aware that it had actually been done. No discernible aftereffects whatsoever. It was late Friday when I got it. |
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Probably got the placebo 
Volume doesn't mean you are getting more, its all in the delivery system. That is also what gets most people talking, its not the vaccine but the other stuff in the injection.
I wish there was something better, lets just hope that this does the trick. Even so there will always be those that want and expect results now.
**I have been summoned for Jury duty, my girl friend is beside herself worried about me leaving the house. She just lost her best friend to Covid and is putting up a strong front but I know she is going to break down soon. So I am praying that this is viable or that something else comes along.
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Patrick
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DEC 21, 03:21 PM
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quote | Originally posted by rinselberg:
A side-by-side comparison, although I don't think people are going to be able to choose one or the other until 2021 is well underway:
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I'm hoping that people (such as myself) who might be more prone to having an allergic reaction are given a choice, sooner rather than later, if a particular COVID vaccination is less likely to cause a reaction.
I've never had a smallpox vaccine due to the egg proteins in it, as I'm allergic to raw egg white (as well as to peanuts, walnuts, almonds, etc).
The ingredients of the Pfizer vaccine look safe for me, but I'm following reports (minimal up to this point) of allergic reactions with interest.
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Jake_Dragon
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DEC 21, 04:23 PM
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quote | Originally posted by Patrick:
I'm hoping that people (such as myself) who might be more prone to having an allergic reaction are given a choice, sooner rather than later, if a particular COVID vaccination is less likely to cause a reaction.
I've never had a smallpox vaccine due to the egg proteins in it, as I'm allergic to raw egg white (as well as to peanuts, walnuts, almonds, etc).
The ingredients of the Pfizer vaccine look safe for me, but I'm following reports (minimal up to this point) of allergic reactions with interest. |
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That's got to suck, when I was young I didn't have any reactions. Well come to find out I do have allergies they just took longer to develop. Headaches and muscle pain pretty quickly and then the rashes start. Triggered by food, soap and who knows what else. Now if something makes me react it gets put on the list. Nothing has caused me any breathing issues yet. If you have that reaction then I feel for you.
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Patrick
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DEC 21, 04:42 PM
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quote | Originally posted by Jake_Dragon:
...when I was young I didn't have any reactions. Well come to find out I do have allergies they just took longer to develop.
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One of my worst (non-food) allergies ever since being a toddler has been to cats. I couldn't enter a house that had a cat within without getting an asthma attack. As an adult, if I knew ahead of time that I was going someplace that had cats, I could pre-dose with antihistamines, and I would be okay, but my allergies to cats were really bad.
But then something happened...
After about 63 years of severe allergies to cats... I discovered that I was no longer allergic to them. It's a freakin' miracle. I now have a cat!
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I still haven't worked up the courage to try a peanut butter sandwich though.
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Jake_Dragon
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DEC 21, 05:25 PM
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Patrick
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DEC 21, 05:48 PM
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quote | Originally posted by Jake_Dragon:
That's crazy, my sister is severely allergic to birds feathers.
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Yep, I could never have feather pillows.
quote | Originally posted by Jake_Dragon:
I am glad that you are over your cat allergy, they can be some of the best and worst pets 
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I've always liked cats, I just couldn't be around them. Then this cat sought me out 2-1/2 years ago, and the rest is history. 
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maryjane
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DEC 21, 09:48 PM
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I don't remember if I posted a picture of my new cat or not..
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Patrick
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DEC 21, 10:01 PM
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quote | Originally posted by maryjane:
I don't remember if I posted a picture of my new cat or not.
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Is that a feeder of some sort beside your, ummm... cat?
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maryjane
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DEC 21, 10:14 PM
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Yes. It's for my other 2 cats.
I had to raise it up some to keep my dog from rearing up and pulling the whole feeder over so he could eat from it too. The brick is to keep 'em from pulling the lid off and selling the feed to their friends.[This message has been edited by maryjane (edited 12-21-2020).]
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