Twitter was trying to claim Beethoven was black. Mozart has been on the list too. (Page 1/1) sourmash DEC 19, 03:44 PM https://www.newsweek.com/wa...media-debate-1511882 quote Twitter users are debating whether or not Beethoven was black after a blog post about the subject resurfaced online. A post from The Concordian, a student-run newspaper, published in 2015, suggests that Beethoven was black and that his portraits and everything we know about him may have been whitewashed. The legendary composer is not the first historical figure to be subject to speculation over having African ancestry. Historian Mario de Valdes y Cocom has suggested that Queen Charlotte, the wife of British king George III, has notably African features when studying her portraits, a theory that has received a great deal of skepticism from fellow historians. What we do know is that Ludwig van Beethoven was born in Bonn, Germany, in 1770 and moved to Vienna, Austria, in 1792. Beethoven's family came from the Flemish region of northern Europe. The speculation in The Concordian suggests that his mother, Maria Magdalena Keverich, was likely of Moorish descent, as she was apparently born in an area under the direct control of the Moors. The author of the post goes on to cite apparent physical descriptions of Beethoven and refers to a pencil sketch of the composer in which his skin is "very dark" to back up the suggestion. Well, there you have it. Very scientific-al evidence of a pencil sketch that appears dark. A pencil sketch. Blacktree DEC 19, 03:48 PM Morons abound. That's especially true on social media sites. sourmash DEC 19, 04:13 PM You'll find similar discussion and reasoning across all SJW subject matter. For instance the horses that the Spanish introduced to the Americas. The scholarly internet thinkers will state that Spanish only had tall and grand horses, and since the American horses are short that means horses were always here in America. Guess what size of horse doesn't fit well under the decks of a trans-Atlantic ship? The American horse was long extinct. rinselberg DEC 19, 06:20 PM Twitter has not asserted that Beethoven was black. It became a topic on Twitter, and some Twitter users discussed it, some using more intelligence about it than others. I understand that there are only so many text characters that are available to us when we are using the Subject field of the New Topic function, but if I had taken a liking to this story and were the first to bring it up here, I know that I would have tried to come up with another way of "bannering" it. I don't think this is an insignificant observation. In fact, I'm sure it isn't. sourmash DEC 19, 07:03 PM All the identity politics and pronouns can be categorized as "Fake it until you make it." We can change sex with a pronoun today. It was only yesterday we were declaring race by checking a a box on an application. Millions of Europeans have been changing their their DNA to middle eastern for centuries. Science is real, people. Some need to stop denying it.