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MidEngineManiac
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DEC 06, 10:44 PM
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maryjane
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DEC 06, 11:18 PM
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| quote | | In short, “almost-never charge” really is possible. Aptera is not selling us snake oil |
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But the article's headline and this thread's title attempts to.
| quote | | Fortunately, having a 100 kWh pack will allow drivers to have “rollover miles” from previous sunny days to get them through cloudy ones, so the ability to plug the vehicle in (which Aptera will have) should see very little use for most drivers unless they’re doing something unusual like going for a road trip. |
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I would think, that anyone that opted for the 1000 mile version would have the intention of road trips on a fairly regular basis, otherwise, why buy the extended mileage version?
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theogre
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DEC 07, 12:20 AM
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1. It Isn't a Car no matter what they claim. This is a Motor Cycle, tested and register as such in most places because of 3 wheels.
2. As a Motor Cycle it often changes just how FMVSS and similar Safety Standards apply to it. Some Car items do not apply to MC class vehicles. I'm betting missing Door crash beams, front and/or rear crush zones, etc.
3. MC "car" needed MC Cert on Drivers License in most places. Just what that needs changes for each state etc.------------------
Dr. Ian Malcolm: Yeah, but your scientists were so preoccupied with whether or not they could, they didn't stop to think if they should.
(Jurassic Park)
The Ogre's Fiero Cave
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MidEngineManiac
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DEC 07, 06:52 AM
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| quote | Originally posted by maryjane:
I would think, that anyone that opted for the 1000 mile version would have the intention of road trips on a fairly regular basis, otherwise, why buy the extended mileage version? |
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Because "road trips" are a fact of life in North America, and not just joy-riding. I'll do an easy 400-500 today just getting kim to the cancer clinic and a little big-city supply shopping while I'm there anyway. 220 is just there and back with no side trips or stops.
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cliffw
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DEC 07, 08:09 AM
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| quote | Originally posted by maryjane:
But the article's headline and this thread's title attempts to.
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| quote | About the Author
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[This message has been edited by cliffw (edited 12-07-2020).]
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Monkeyman
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DEC 07, 08:50 AM
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| quote | Originally posted by theogre:
1. It Isn't a Car no matter what they claim. This is a Motor Cycle, tested and register as such in most places because of 3 wheels.
2. As a Motor Cycle it often changes just how FMVSS and similar Safety Standards apply to it. Some Car items do not apply to MC class vehicles. I'm betting missing Door crash beams, front and/or rear crush zones, etc.
3. MC "car" needed MC Cert on Drivers License in most places. Just what that needs changes for each state etc.
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Just because it only has 3 wheels, that doesn't mean it's not a car in both the practical and legal sense. There have been plenty of 3 wheeled vehicles that have been classified as cars. They have to meet all of the same requirements as cars with 4 wheels, 6 wheels, etc. I only briefly read through the website but I seem to remember that it said something about Aptera getting ready for crash testing. No crash testing on a MC so this would mean they consider this a car in every sense of the word.
I'd have to double check but I think there are only about 32 states that require a MC endorsement for 3 wheels as long as it meets the "autocycle" requirements. Think Polaris Slingshot and everything Vanderhall produces.
Depending on final pricing, I might be interested in one at some point. I'm not giving them a $100 deposit as they're notorious for dragging their feet. (It's taken them 10 years to get this far.)
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82-T/A [At Work]
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DEC 07, 02:58 PM
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I would love this car... but unfortunately, something needs to be done about regulation in the United States as it applies to vehicles. People need to be able to make a decision for themselves rather than mandate that we must all meet a minimum standard in product. Thus is the reason this is a three-wheel car, rather than a 4-wheeler... semantics matter I suppose.
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MidEngineManiac
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DEC 07, 03:34 PM
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Whats gotten popular with the retired crowd in urban areas here are "boomer buggies". Enclosed mobility scooters that are twice as fast as regular ones. They hook bike trailers to the back to carry groceries or whatever, plus those things have a back seat and small cargo area. For somebody living "in town" and only needs to get to appointments, get groceries ect its a perfect solution. No gas, insurance or licensing needed. A little steep at 7k new for what it is, but overall not bad. Here in this little village we have a lot of people zooming around on golf carts to go to the beach or visit neighbors. Not qqquuuiiitttteeeee legal but the cops dont bother them so long as they are sober. [This message has been edited by MidEngineManiac (edited 12-07-2020).]
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Boondawg
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DEC 07, 05:30 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by 82-T/A [At Work]:
People need to be able to make a decision for themselves rather than mandate that we must all meet a minimum standard in product. |
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Are you referring to a safety standard?
Because i'm pretty ok with manufacturer's not being allowed to use lead or asbestos in their products.
I think every car should have a breathalyzer hooked to it's ignition system.
Mostly because I want to sell a system I developed to override it.
It's all about the Benjamin's! 
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sourmash
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DEC 07, 10:35 PM
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Just get someone else to breath into it. Wonder if you can do it with an artificial source? The old kind can be faked. I've seen it done.
| quote | Originally posted by MidEngineManiac:
Whats gotten popular with the retired crowd in urban areas here are "boomer buggies". Enclosed mobility scooters that are twice as fast as regular ones. They hook bike trailers to the back to carry groceries or whatever, plus those things have a back seat and small cargo area. For somebody living "in town" and only needs to get to appointments, get groceries ect its a perfect solution. No gas, insurance or licensing needed. A little steep at 7k new for what it is, but overall not bad. Here in this little village we have a lot of people zooming around on golf carts to go to the beach or visit neighbors. Not qqquuuiiitttteeeee legal but the cops dont bother them so long as they are sober.
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Saw a powered wheelchair owner repeatedly doubling an extra person to the store and back while I was working in that area. Lazy turds.
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