aftermarket Continuous Ink Supply Systems for inkjet printers? (Page 1/1)
maryjane NOV 10, 08:55 AM
I have been using a LOT of printer ink the last 6 months and it's been in short supply even thru HP directly. It is not cheap!! $30 for the tri-color extended capacity cartridge.
Are any of these CISS any good and do they save you any $$?
Do current made printers have security protocols that prevent you from using one?

This is for an Epson, but there are others for different brands
hnthomps NOV 10, 09:29 AM

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Originally posted by maryjane:

I have been using a LOT of printer ink the last 6 months and it's been in short supply even thru HP directly. It is not cheap!! $30 for the tri-color extended capacity cartridge.
Are any of these CISS any good and do they save you any $$?
Do current made printers have security protocols that prevent you from using one?

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I am using the direct HP ink supply for my fax/printer/scanner and believe that it is very cost effective. The ink supply in the machine is monitored over the net and HP sends me a new cartridge when the old one is down to 10-20%. The cost is around $3 per month and covers both black and color cartridges plus shipping.

Nelson

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theogre NOV 10, 12:38 PM
For last 15+ years...
Many Ink and Toner printers including HP and Lexmark uses "chips" on cart's so cart's are "genuine" and even will "go dead" after X hours whether or not ink/toner runs out.
That on top most "ink jet" will "self clean" every X hours and run cart's out when not printing. HP Brother and others does this w/o a "DRM chip" in the cart's.

Several Federal Court cases for these chips (using Copyright law and DMCA for DRM chips) indent to stop aftermarket cart's and refill kits.

You often can's see the "chip" easily or not at all because their small to very small, can be built into Ink heads etc and if somewhere else, now many are wireless and easy to hind.

You need to have more data on the actual model before buying constant ink kits.

If you have HP and other Tri-color cart's... Better to buy another printer w/ 4 or more ink tanks. Otherwise you run out one color and waste others to replace Tri-colors and using for big jobs will eat cart's. Constant Ink kits on ink carts move w/ the head may have problems because need clearance/mods to install them and even then may leak etc.

Notes:
Ink printers have waste dump somewhere below ink heads. This part needs to clean after using a lot of prints. Some printers will "self destruct" by firmware in them when they think the dump is full whether or not is true. When that happens, Some units are "dead" permanently, dead until "factory service" staff reset a page counter, have "chips" in/on the part and need to replace the part and any case cleaning won't help. Example: Many HP have doors to access this part but not all small units and most sold for normal consumers. Even some larger units you have to strip the top cover to clean this. Even then cleaning many not help w/o someway to reset page count or hack DRM chips.

⚠️ HP Inkjets and some others have a thin strip of plastic w/ fine black lines passing thru the print head. This is optical location for the head and ink over-spray on the strip can block the sensor. Often you can't clean the strip w/o destroying it. For many HP Inkjets, You will know this is "dead" when you turn it on and head slams to one end and does not return to the "dock."

Related Item:
Some may have seen "maintenance error" on HP Laserjets etc. in 20+ years... Is also based on "hidden" page count. (HP prints this data only on config page on most units.) This mean "you need a Maintenance kit" replacing fuser assem, pickup rollers and many a few other parts depending on model. Page count happens 250,000 on many units.
Many ignore the error until paper won't feed or fuser cover is bad and leaving marked on prints but Some stops working at all until have install a M-kit.

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maryjane NOV 10, 01:05 PM

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Better to buy another printer w/ 4 or more ink tanks.



Not many printers in stock nowadays either.. not in physical brick/mortar stores anyway.
My niece works at BB and she says they have been out for months and as soon as any get in, they are snatched right up the same day.
randye NOV 10, 10:52 PM
Other than a cheap inkjet printer / scanner for quick, one-two page fast B&W jobs I quit home printing years ago, especially large color print jobs.

I either shoot the print job over to Office Depot / Staples via internet, or drop off a thumb drive if I have special instructions, (collating, punching, binding, etc.)

It has proven to be cheaper and more efficient for me and I haven't had to buy a new printer or color ink for at least 6 - 8 years.

(My cheap, POS, printer will now go belly-up since I said that.....)
MidEngineManiac NOV 10, 11:51 PM
26 bucks at wally world. If it a problem...26 bucks to replace.

This is NOT a life issue I am going to care about.
maryjane NOV 12, 10:31 AM
$26/week or even $26 every few days adds up quickly tho moot if no replacement is available, and there are no commercial printing services available within a 40 mile round trip. (one of the few downsides to living in a rural setting)
williegoat NOV 12, 11:53 AM
I am late to the party, but have you considered a laser printer? If you only print black and white, a laser printer is far more economical to operate than an inkjet.
maryjane NOV 12, 12:07 PM

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Originally posted by williegoat:

I am late to the party, but have you considered a laser printer? If you only print black and white, a laser printer is far more economical to operate than an inkjet.


I have considered it, but here in the last few months, a lot of what I have been printing would not reveal what needs to be obvious if it were printed in B&W.
This:


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When the goal is to illustrate how much new green & growing grass is present un wooded conditions during specific times of year.
(and that's not even a true B&W image)

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