Who's afraid of the Big Bad Wolf? Not Colorado voters. This is 2020 Election News. (Page 1/3)
rinselberg NOV 06, 12:22 AM
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Meet the newest face of Democratic-leaning Colorado's "ActBlue" coalition.

"Gray wolves to be reintroduced to Colorado in unprecedented vote."

"[Colorado] voters narrowly approved a ballot initiative to reintroduce [gray] wolves into the southern Rockies."

National Geographic has the report, credited to Douglas Main and dated November 5. The Internet page link:
https://www.nationalgeograp...wolf-reintroduction/

Colorado's ballot proposal 114 passed with a slim majority, and it's the voters in urban areas that tipped the scale to "Yes."

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The livestock industry, some hunting groups, and the Colorado Farm Bureau rallied against the measure, which was supported largely by voters in urban areas.

Martini [sic] stresses that the majority of rural residents in western Colorado have opposed the measure, whereas supportive urban voters won’t have to live alongside the animals, a scenario he considers unfair.



Did someone just say "Martini?"

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Shawn Martini, spokesperson for Coloradans for Protecting Wildlife, which opposes the initiative, says state biologists have previously declined to introduce wolves.

“This is the first time that any species would be introduced via the ballot box, and there's a reason it's never been done before—direct democracy certainly has its limits.”


I can see it--the resistance to the idea of putting it to a popular vote. I mean, what's next? A ballot measure to reintroduce the Giant Western Ground Snail? I just made that one up, but I think you see where I am going here. Is the ballot box about to take the place of graduate and postgraduate study of Ecosystems and Evolutionary Biology at (for example) the University of Colorado? Has Colorado (and perhaps the entire nation) just moved into a new era of "John and Jane Neighborhood Zoologists" instead of "Well known Ecosystem and Wildlife Expert, PhD Phil Smart Guy"..?

Here's how the NatGeo report crossed the finish line:

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Reintroduction program biologists will make it a priority to work with people who live alongside wolves, for example providing training and resources for ranchers to help prevent wolves from preying on cattle in the first place, [wildlife and conservation activist] Proctor adds.

“Colorado has the chance to be better than the other states,” he says, “by being inclusive.”


"Inclusive." I like that, anyway.

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WBailey1041 NOV 06, 06:19 AM
Does this mean the same liberals in the urban areas crying about Trump and Fauci are ignoring the sCiEntiSTs and experts?

Can’t be, what about their yard signs?


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Raydar NOV 06, 07:04 AM
Brought to you by urban tree-huggers, who will never have to deal with the fallout from their vote.

Wait. I forgot... most of them are probably vegan, anyway. Now it makes perfect sense.
maryjane NOV 06, 09:06 AM
Why would they do this?
One word.
Weed.
MidEngineManiac NOV 06, 09:59 AM
in 20 years they are going to have one hell of a hunting industry !
maryjane NOV 06, 10:38 AM
It's Colorado. In less than 20 years, they'll ban hunting altogether.
blackrams NOV 06, 12:20 PM

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Originally posted by Raydar:

Brought to you by urban tree-huggers, who will never have to deal with the fallout from their vote.




Steve,
You called that one right. City Slickers have no idea of what it takes to ranch or farm and apparently don't care as long as though wolves don't show up in their back yards.
May I suggest a trap and relocate program for the ranchers of CO. Trap the wolves and then set them free in suburbia. See how much they like that when their pets, kids and they are threatened.

Rams

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Boondawg NOV 06, 10:05 PM

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Originally posted by maryjane:

It's Colorado. In less than 20 years, they'll ban hunting altogether.



Eventually, hunting will be banned everywhere.

Someone is going to invent a machine that will be able to understand how animals feel.
They will tell us that they no-longer wish to be exploited.
That they love, care, dream, just like us.

Unfortunately for them, it will take us a few-thousand years to actually hear them.
And another coupla' hundred years to actually stop eating them...BBQ!
maryjane NOV 06, 10:29 PM

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Originally posted by Boondawg:


Eventually, hunting will be banned everywhere.

Someone is going to invent a machine that will be able to understand how animals feel.
They will tell us that they no-longer wish to be exploited.
That they love, care, dream, just like us.

Unfortunately for them, it will take us a few-thousand years to actually hear them.
And another coupla' hundred years to actually stop eating them...BBQ!



I doubt that.
We've hunted for well over 500,000 years and have hunted each other for about the same amount of time. Homo Hibilis was hunting, killing and butchering animals 2.6 million years ago.
Neanderthals were the apex predators of their era.

Through the Paleolithic across the last 2.8 million years there has been a pattern of human and human ancestor’s biology adapting to an additionally available food source with resulting greater brain size, with the subsequent broadening and diversification of human diet. Homo habilis incorporated larger amounts of animal protein and fat into its diet, then as Homo erectus evolved it increased the breadth of its diet through fire and more advanced tool use.

There is nothing in our evolutionary history to indicate we will at some point regress back a million years or so.

blackrams NOV 06, 11:25 PM

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Originally posted by maryjane:

There is nothing in our evolutionary history to indicate we will at some point regress back a million years or so.



But, does our evolutionary history include drug use. Some of the "druggies" I see around town are definitely knuckle draggers.

Rams