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maryjane
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NOV 03, 09:01 AM
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how Neanderthals and Humans battled for supremacy for 100,00 thousand years The short version, but the long version isn't excessively long either:
quote | All too human Warfare is an intrinsic part of being human. War isn't a modern invention, but an ancient, fundamental part of our humanity. Historically, all peoples warred. Our oldest writings are filled with war stories. Archaeology reveals ancient fortresses and battles, and sites of prehistoric massacres going back millennia.
To war is human – and Neanderthals were very like us. We're remarkably similar in our skull and skeletal anatomy, and share 99.7 percent of our DNA.
Behaviourally, Neanderthals were astonishingly like us. They made fire, buried their dead, fashioned jewellery from seashells and animal teeth, made artwork and stone shrines. If Neanderthals shared so many of our creative instincts, they probably shared many of our destructive instincts, too.
The Neanderthal resistance War leaves a subtler mark in the form of territorial boundaries. The best evidence that Neanderthals not only fought but excelled at war, is that they met us and weren't immediately overrun. Instead, for around 100,000 years, Neanderthals resisted modern human expansion.
Even after primitive Homo sapiens broke out of Africa 200,000 years ago, it took over 150,000 years to conquer Neanderthal lands. In Israel and Greece, archaic Homo sapiens took ground only to fall back against Neanderthal counteroffensives, before a final offensive by modern Homo sapiens, starting 125,000 years ago, eliminated them.
This wasn't a blitzkrieg, as one would expect if Neanderthals were either pacifists or inferior warriors, but a long war of attrition. Ultimately, we won. But this wasn't because they were less inclined to fight. In the end, we likely just became better at war than they were.The Conversation |
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Original articlehere[This message has been edited by maryjane (edited 11-03-2020).]
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sourmash
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NOV 03, 09:32 AM
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Being an aginner, I'm not apt to accept the article until there's more evidence.
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rinselberg
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NOV 03, 10:42 AM
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As in "born aginner"..? (Born again.)
I've not seen that ("aginner") before.
A "nice" piece of evidence would be a discovery of cave art depicting Homo Sapiens vs Neanderthal.
I'm not holding my breath.
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maryjane
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NOV 03, 11:41 AM
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I took it to mean 'agin' war. agin=against
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sourmash
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NOV 03, 04:54 PM
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I'm agin things until I'm fer 'em.
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Patrick
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NOV 03, 05:27 PM
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quote | Originally posted by sourmash:
Being an aginner...
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I thought you were just having trouble spelling engineer. 
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[EDIT]... because I spelled thought wrong.  [This message has been edited by Patrick (edited 11-03-2020).]
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sourmash
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NOV 03, 05:56 PM
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I got accused of being an engineer once but I'd only stayed at a Super 8, not the Holiday Inn.
Hey, on a White Nationalist topic a guy was disagreeing with me that other groups mixed with European might be accepted as just as good as 100% European to him. which group he wanted to know. My reply was, "Neanderthal?" No response was ever received,
edited for clarity.[This message has been edited by sourmash (edited 11-03-2020).]
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