Do we have any furniture builders here? (Page 1/2)
blackrams OCT 20, 10:45 PM
Looking to have a specific piece of furniture built, could use some advice from a experienced craftsman.
Basically, I want a (dry) wet bar built in a Mission style structure. But, due to the size, it needs to be built so that it can be easily dis-assembled due to weight. I'll have to man handle it up into my bonus room (up the stairs). I'm wanting something about 10 feet long, 4.5 feet wide and about 36 to 40 inches in height. Just the weight of the top of it will be all I can handle.

Rams

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MidEngineManiac OCT 20, 10:48 PM
.I'd say "panelize" it into 24-inch sections that bolt together, then the top across all of them fastened from undreneath...in simple terms. (I'm on my phone, type more later)
blackrams OCT 20, 10:53 PM
I think I agree.

It has to be something I can bolt together once I get it all up to the second floor. I envision the top to be pretty weighty.
Wanting it to be a Mission style (dry) wet bar type of thing.

Rams
MidEngineManiac OCT 20, 11:30 PM
OK, if you want the top 4.5 wide (52" deep), I would make the base in panels 24 wide by 36 deep...gives you 8-10" overhang either side depending on how you adjust the top. Build the frame from finger-jointed 2x3 (guaranteed straight) and 1/4 ply gussets with pocket holes as need. Screw/glue assembly. Put Mission, modern, or whatever style fascia on it once the frame is installed.

Thats a BIG bar, most pubs are 24-30". Just measured it, my kitchen table is 36 inch and its too big for the room.

<edit> I can build it for ya, aint helping you haul it up no stairs, and shipping is gonna cost unless you can steal something with a sling underneath !!!!

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blackrams OCT 21, 07:27 AM

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Originally posted by MidEngineManiac:

OK, if you want the top 4.5 wide (52" deep), I would make the base in panels 24 wide by 36 deep...gives you 8-10" overhang either side depending on how you adjust the top. Build the frame from finger-jointed 2x3 (guaranteed straight) and 1/4 ply gussets with pocket holes as need. Screw/glue assembly. Put Mission, modern, or whatever style fascia on it once the frame is installed.

Thats a BIG bar, most pubs are 24-30". Just measured it, my kitchen table is 36 inch and its too big for the room.

<edit> I can build it for ya, aint helping you haul it up no stairs, and shipping is gonna cost unless you can steal something with a sling underneath !!!!




Considering everything you've stated. The reason I'm looking for someone to build this is, I gave up all my wood working tools years ago and to go out and buy new tools for one project is kind of wasteful. I don't plan on building furniture for others or myself. I simply want this (dry) wet bar for entertaining purposes.

The size I want is because I have a very big bonus room. 30X38 feet above my garage. It needs furniture and I already have the lumber. A little over 25 years ago, I had a pond dug on a different property. The area where the pond was planned had some very large White Oak trees that had to be dozed out. I saved several of the trunks and had took them to the saw mill and had them milled into dimensional lumber for a particular project and have quite a bit of it left over. All of it is 1 3/4" thick, 8" wide and about 11 feet long minus shrinkage. I probably have about 40 pieces of this left and I want to use the prettiest grain stock to build this "Wet Bar".

My biggest issue is the lack of appropriate tools, specifically, a planer and router/jointer. If, I can get this built with the basic structure of the base as one assembled piece and the table top as a second piece that I can attach, I think I should be able to get it upstairs with only my wife providing me with supervision. Any bigger or heavier and I'm going to have to have additional muscle.

Reference transporting it, cost of transporting it long distances make that a non-starter. I have my own enclosed trailers to do that but, the fuel cost could or would make this a very expensive project. Sling loading it below a "borrowed" helicopter would not be necessary, There's a Chinook unit just down the road and that A/C has the interior room needed but, I'm doubting they'll let me borrow a CH-47 over night.

Rams
steve308 OCT 21, 09:59 AM
I successfully assembled (well kind of) an IKEA cabinet. Does that make me a finish carpenter?
hnthomps OCT 21, 10:41 AM

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Originally posted by blackrams:


Considering everything you've stated. The reason I'm looking for someone to build this is, I gave up all my wood working tools years ago and to go out and buy new tools for one project is kind of wasteful. I don't plan on building furniture for others or myself. I simply want this (dry) wet bar for entertaining purposes.

The size I want is because I have a very big bonus room. 30X38 feet above my garage. It needs furniture and I already have the lumber. A little over 25 years ago, I had a pond dug on a different property. The area where the pond was planned had some very large White Oak trees that had to be dozed out. I saved several of the trunks and had took them to the saw mill and had them milled into dimensional lumber for a particular project and have quite a bit of it left over. All of it is 1 3/4" thick, 8" wide and about 11 feet long minus shrinkage. I probably have about 40 pieces of this left and I want to use the prettiest grain stock to build this "Wet Bar".

My biggest issue is the lack of appropriate tools, specifically, a planer and router/jointer. If, I can get this built with the basic structure of the base as one assembled piece and the table top as a second piece that I can attach, I think I should be able to get it upstairs with only my wife providing me with supervision. Any bigger or heavier and I'm going to have to have additional muscle.

Reference transporting it, cost of transporting it long distances make that a non-starter. I have my own enclosed trailers to do that but, the fuel cost could or would make this a very expensive project. Sling loading it below a "borrowed" helicopter would not be necessary, There's a Chinook unit just down the road and that A/C has the interior room needed but, I'm doubting they'll let me borrow a CH-47 over night.

Rams



Ron,

I recently did something similar when I assembled/built a new kitchen for my youngest son's current house using IKEA cabinets. You can build the cabinets with a very few hand tools. This can be done in place or you can assemble each section separately and cart the section up the stairs. I did all of the assembly work in the den to minimize the mess and confusion around the house and then took the cabinets upstairs individually.The cabinets are a standard height (30" IIRC) but you can build a base to raise the height to the desired distance. If you do the top in one piece, it will likely be the heaviest thing to move. The one used in Toby's house was 12' long and about 4' in width. Since it was quartz, it took three to four people to move this top. The end result was nice looking and very functional so it may be the way to go.

Nelson

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blackrams OCT 21, 06:05 PM
Appreciate the advice from those who have responded but, maybe I didn't make clear what I'm trying to do. I've had this wood stock for about 25 years, it's got some beautiful grain and I am trying to build something unique with it.

The material I have that I want to turn into that (dry) wet bar is all rough cut white oak. This isn't something that just needs assembly, the wood needs to be planed, cut to size, joined, jointed, and a whole bunch of other process work. As I said, I've done similar projects in the past but, let all my wood working tools go when I thought I was done doing that kind of thing. See below:


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Originally posted by blackrams:
A little over 25 years ago, I had a pond dug on a different property. The area where the pond was planned had some very large White Oak trees that had to be dozed out. I saved several of the trunks and had took them to the saw mill and had them milled into dimensional lumber for a particular project and have quite a bit of it left over. All of it is 1 3/4" thick, 8" wide and about 11 feet long minus shrinkage. I probably have about 40 pieces of this left and I want to use the prettiest grain stock to build this "Wet Bar".



Rams

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MidEngineManiac OCT 21, 06:24 PM
Are you on facebook ? Try joining a local woodworking group to find somebody close.
blackrams OCT 21, 06:56 PM

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Originally posted by MidEngineManiac:

Are you on facebook ? Try joining a local woodworking group to find somebody close.




Found someone today.
Thanks

Rams