BOOM XB-1 rollout (Page 1/2)
htexans1 OCT 09, 06:27 AM
Boom industries rolls out the XB-1 supersonic test aircraft.

Its the Test article for the "Overture" a supersonic aircraft.

Japan Air Lines, British Airways and others have signed on for airplanes.

First delivery about 2027.


https://boomsupersonic.com/xb-1

While Overture will only seat 50, which makes it affordable to build and to run. A speed of 2.2 Mach is attainable.

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82-T/A [At Work] OCT 09, 09:32 AM
Very cool... so I guess the goal is if everything goes well, they'll take the same basic design / shape and just make it wider and longer?
htexans1 OCT 09, 10:35 AM
That is what I am guessing, too.
Hudini OCT 09, 12:55 PM
50 people? How is that cheaper? Concorde held only 99 people and it was expensive. Imagine spreading your costs out to 50 people.

Also, supersonic flight for civilian aircraft is limited to oceanic airspace. Supersonic flight over land is restricted to the military and then only in very specific air space.

Edit: I’ve been supersonic 3 times over land. Pilot training in the T-38A, Red Flag in the F-111E, and Desert Storm coming out of Iraq at mach 1.4 also in the F-111E. Going super over the North Sea was fairly common and perfectly legal. I always wondered if some fishermen were cussing me for the noise.

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MidEngineManiac OCT 09, 12:58 PM
They are gonna use it to send the miners to the moon !
Blacktree OCT 09, 02:33 PM
For some reason, I was expecting a refit of the B-1 bomber. Their use of the designation XB-1 for a civilian transport is confusing.

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randye OCT 09, 06:21 PM

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Originally posted by Hudini:

50 people? How is that cheaper? Concorde held only 99 people and it was expensive. Imagine spreading your costs out to 50 people.

Also, supersonic flight for civilian aircraft is limited to oceanic airspace. Supersonic flight over land is restricted to the military and then only in very specific air space.





I watched the video of those people trying to explain the rationale' for it all and I was left wondering the same thing.

They're definitely NOT going to be doing New York to L.A. runs supersonic, so it's still the same long haul transoceanic business model.

Civilians flying supersonic was the novelty of the Concorde but the major complaint, and the chief cause of it's ultimate demise, was due to capacity and the expense as a result of that.

I don't think the young folks involved in that venture have really thought out the financial aspect well enough.
Hudini OCT 09, 08:23 PM
Maybe the XB-1 builders are hoping for approval of LA - NY routes.

Stranger things have happened. Remember the company LightSquared? They wanted to use frequencies that are next to GPS frequencies to build a 5g network. For 10 years they were denied by the FCC. In April the FCC finally approved the plan by the company under their new name Ligado.

It just makes you wonder if the builders know something they aren’t letting on about.
ARFiero OCT 10, 03:25 PM
Most aircraft builders are lobbying to get the law that prohibits supersonic flight over the United States. The law specifically states Supersonic flight but was actually put in place to stop the sonic boom from being destructive and annoying US cities. It is the wording they want changed. Companies have been researching ways to increase speed past the sound barrier and keep it quiet (see Gulfstream's Quiet Spike https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quiet_Spike). Once the legislation changes you will see the reemergence of Supersonic flight.


Shelby
Gulfstream Aviation
Raydar OCT 10, 05:09 PM

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Originally posted by ARFiero:
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The law specifically states Supersonic flight but was actually put in place to stop the sonic boom from being destructive and annoying US cities. It is the wording they want changed. Companies have been researching ways to increase speed past the sound barrier and keep it quiet.




I was thinking along similar lines.
I read something a while back, that kind of alluded to this.