An American 2nd Amendment thread (Page 1/15)
2.5 SEP 28, 04:22 PM
The 2nd amendment is becoming more of a hot topic each year as politicians and the public posture on the topic. I think it would be cool if we had a thread here that was sort of a resource for people to get info and opinion about American's right to bear arms. I hope that is ok. Maybe it will get some conversation going. It could also give you something to share. If you have something you'd like to add feel free to do so.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UnTUMs-i9fM


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8zv1lIk0bvE


If you disagree with something posted, I'd love to hear an argument against it.
2.5 SEP 28, 04:26 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rDAOc8vJEeQ

When the person you are arguing with essentially shouts you down, over and over, and even brings a friend to help outnumber the voices....you know something is fishy.

[This message has been edited by 2.5 (edited 09-28-2020).]

2.5 SEP 28, 04:35 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FxkP9sUrULs
MidEngineManiac SEP 28, 04:51 PM
The 2nd gave America, and the entire planet, a shining example of freedom and how to defend it if required. Unfortunately, you guys have spent over 100 years watering it down, adding conditions and exceptions, piling on the regulations until it no longer serves its original purpose. Arms are no longer a right, they are a privilege handed out by the government only to those who meet a few thousand conditions.
2.5 SEP 28, 04:57 PM

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Originally posted by MidEngineManiac:

The 2nd gave America, and the entire planet, a shining example of freedom and how to defend it if required. Unfortunately, you guys have spent over 100 years watering it down, adding conditions and exceptions, piling on the regulations until it no longer serves its original purpose. Arms are no longer a right, they are a privilege handed out by the government only to those who meet a few thousand conditions.



Agreed the current state is a farce.

But you aint seen nothin yet...check out what is up next on the agenda!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=58UPGtxRJM4
2.5 SEP 28, 05:08 PM
2nd amendment advocate gets a little heated up...as he should.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DtYBfEdybSY
Hudini SEP 28, 05:11 PM
Politicians have been watering down the 2nd almost from the very beginning. The first gun control laws were in the late 1700s right after independence. I believe mostly racist in origin.
2.5 SEP 28, 05:26 PM
Is "the science decided"?

Lets be frank.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1anAqFYIQXI
rbell2915 SEP 28, 08:13 PM
Hopefully when ACB's near inevitable confirmation happens the Supreme Court will start rolling back on these unconstitutional laws.

Shall not be infringed. It's black and white.
Monkeyman SEP 28, 10:00 PM
I'm all for stringent background checks (which should be pre-performed if you get a CCW in your state....I'll expound on this in a minute). Personally, I don't see that anybody (other than LE or military) "needs" a fully automatic weapon although I don't think there should be a law against owning one as long as you can pass a background check. I don't own one and don't plan on getting one. I own at least (1) gun (possibly more than 1). While I may sell a gun here and there, I don't plan on giving up any of mine involuntarily. Buyback? Sure. As long as it's voluntary and I get whatever I think it's worth. Saves me from having to advertise. You want to melt it down after you buy it from me? What do I care? It's no longer mine. Same if you want to "buyback" my car.

Background checks. They should be strict as hell, IMHO. These days, other than felons and those convicted of domestic violence, just about anybody can get a CCW permit. If you've ever been convicted of a violent crime whether you used a weapon or not, felony or misdemeanor, you don't get a gun (handgun, rifle, BB gun, anything)....EVER. If you've ever been convicted of domestic violence, same thing. If you suffer from any number of mental defects/illnesses that need to be controlled with medication and would/could result in violence (I'm thinking things like schizophrenia, etc), no gun. You've gotten into multiple bar fights? No gun. You have a tendency towards violence.

Every state should require a CCW/weapons permit. The rules should be the same among all 50 states + DC. If I can carry in NC (and I can), I should be allowed to carry in WI or CA or TX. In order to get a weapons permit, a gun safety course should be mandatory. (It happens to be in NC although pretty much anybody can open carry. It WASN'T required when I lived in IN and I've seen some people unknowingly doing some stupid things.) Speaking of which, open or concealed carry shouldn't matter. Either you're allowed to carry or you're not. (IMO, none of this should matter on your own private property unless you've been convicted of a violent crime. If I'm on my property and want to carry, I shouldn't need someone elses permission. Also, a CCW/weapons permit should cover every weapon out there (excluding NBC or things like rockets/grenades/etc...nobody other than LE/military needs a grenade). If I can carry/possess a handgun, I should be allowed to carry/possess a fully automatic weapon or a can.

Consequences for public carrying withOUT a permit? Harsh and standard across the board. I don't give a flying you-know-what if you're rich, poor, black, white, tall, short, prior military or consciencious objector. You're in a gang and you carry cuz that's the "rules", you go to prison. I don't care. We'll buind another prison for your sorry butt. (Don't get me started on the pansies who currently run most of the prisons across America. They were "inmates" or "convicts" 20 years ago. That's not PC enough. Now, they're "guests" or "internees". You think I'm kidding? I'm not. Disgusting.)

With all that said, I'm very PRO 2A. Always have been, always will be. I've been subjected to gun violence which is one of the reasons why I carry. Like an American Express card, I never leave home without it. I was a Correctional Sergeant in a maximum security adult male prison (15 years, 3 weeks and 1 day). I've listened to the scum of the earth talking about what they did with a gun, who they did it to and how they got around the "laws". It makes me sick. I think (and again, this is just my opinion), if there were standard rules and harsh consequences, things would be better.