I dune know about this one.. (Page 1/3)
maryjane SEP 09, 03:00 PM
steve308 SEP 09, 04:03 PM
Will the creative minds in Hollywood ever have an original idea for a movie again?
olejoedad SEP 09, 04:22 PM
There are creative minds in Hollywood?

Who knew - I thought they had all died or retired....
cliffw SEP 09, 04:28 PM

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Originally posted by olejoedad:
There are creative minds in Hollywood?

Who knew - I thought they had all died or retired....



They were cultured canceled.
williegoat SEP 09, 04:30 PM

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Originally posted by olejoedad:

There are creative minds in Hollywood?


Yes, they create paranoia, hate and discontent; all at the bidding of their plutocratic overlords.
Jake_Dragon SEP 09, 05:57 PM
Did you hear about the new BatMan movie?
Boondawg SEP 11, 02:22 PM
First , about the new “Dune”.
It’s as big a sanitized realization of Herbert’s dream as David Lynch’s version was.

If you want to see what Herbert intended, I think the documentary of Jordensky(sic) is as close as we never got.

And now a word about “Hollywood” when it comes to new ideas.

One:
It’s really all about the studios, and profit.
They push what sells.
Kids want superheroes.

New ideas are risky to the bottom line.

Two:
Writers write books.
If they sell well, they become movies.
Even if they don’t, they’re optioned for a possible later date.

In every studio there are shelves of optioned (bought the movie rights) stories/books/screenplays waiting for the go ahead from the studio, and the right directors vision to tell the story. And the right “climate”, socially.

It’s not “Hollywood” that doesn’t have “new ideas”.
Or the writers.
Or the directors.
It’s the financial backers unwilling to take a risk with the returns on their investment on an “unproven” chance.

They make (remake) known money-makers.
They offer-up what has the greatest chance of making the most money.

Just like every other product that is for sale.
The market decides what it wants.

Me?
I think we need more studios and directors willing to take chances with the new stories they already got on the shelf.

Every once in a while something great comes along like “Edge Of Tomorrow”...
Patrick SEP 11, 04:59 PM

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Originally posted by Boondawg:

First , about the new “Dune”.
It’s as big a sanitized realization of Herbert’s dream as David Lynch’s version was.

If you want to see what Herbert intended, I think the documentary of Jordensky(sic) is as close as we never got.



Damn, get the man's name right. It's Jodorowsky !
Boondawg SEP 11, 08:48 PM

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Originally posted by Patrick:

Damn, get the man's name right. It's [b][/b] !




I know.
I always mess it up.
Alejandro Jodorowsky.
I just can't get it.

My brain see's it as a dyslexia simulator...and runs!
theBDub SEP 18, 10:34 PM

quote
Originally posted by Boondawg:

First , about the new “Dune”.
It’s as big a sanitized realization of Herbert’s dream as David Lynch’s version was.

If you want to see what Herbert intended, I think the documentary of Jordensky(sic) is as close as we never got.

And now a word about “Hollywood” when it comes to new ideas.

One:
It’s really all about the studios, and profit.
They push what sells.
Kids want superheroes.

New ideas are risky to the bottom line.

Two:
Writers write books.
If they sell well, they become movies.
Even if they don’t, they’re optioned for a possible later date.

In every studio there are shelves of optioned (bought the movie rights) stories/books/screenplays waiting for the go ahead from the studio, and the right directors vision to tell the story. And the right “climate”, socially.

It’s not “Hollywood” that doesn’t have “new ideas”.
Or the writers.
Or the directors.
It’s the financial backers unwilling to take a risk with the returns on their investment on an “unproven” chance.

They make (remake) known money-makers.
They offer-up what has the greatest chance of making the most money.

Just like every other product that is for sale.
The market decides what it wants.

Me?
I think we need more studios and directors willing to take chances with the new stories they already got on the shelf.

Every once in a while something great comes along like “Edge Of Tomorrow”...



This is a studio taking a massive chance.

This isn’t the full first book, and the second movie to finish it isn’t green lit yet. It’s by a director, Dennis Villeneuve, who has thrown out consistently stellar material, but whose recent Blade Runner 2048 flopped financially.

The live adaptations of Dune has failed, every one. And they still threw hundreds of millions at this. This book certainly has its following, but casual fans might think this copies Star Wars, not the other way around.

Dennis has said this book is what sparked his creativity and got him into filmmaking. He’s been wanting to make this since he was a child.

Nothing we’ve seen gives any indication that it’s dialed down, besides the stillsuits not completely covering their faces. I’m a massive fan of the source material, and I’m completely stoked for this. I don’t think we have any reason to think this is going to be some sanitized version.

Edit: I’m going to add: Jodorowsky’s adaptation may have been a good movie, but it would have not been remotely what Herbert intended. By his own admission, he wanted to “rape” Herbert and the book. It would’ve been a visual spectacle.

[This message has been edited by theBDub (edited 09-18-2020).]