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williegoat
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DEC 06, 12:09 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by 2.5:
I'm still basically ignoring the "impeachment".
It is a shiny distraction. |
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2.5 is a wise man.
While they (whoever they are) have the whole country watching the Trump phenomenon like it was the Superbowl, things that should get our attention are being ignored and there are likely things happening that should not be.
Regardless of which team you are rooting for, be aware that much of what you see is just magician’s sleight of hand.
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Rickady88GT
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DEC 06, 12:19 PM
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Without a doubt, this sham is bias to an extreme. The dems were saying that Trump needs to be impeached from the first moments in office. This entire process had nothing to do with truth, it was based on lies and a burning desire to screw Trump. Both nancy and adam said that this impeachment would be bipartisan, BUT has never been. So being that this process is unjustified and bias, revenge........ this leads me to ask if Trump can appeal the decision to the Supreme Court? Possibly have it overturned or dismissed?
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olejoedad
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DEC 06, 12:33 PM
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Removing DJT's access to Twitter?
Isn't the President entitled to communicate without the filter of the media?
The media is the Progressive Left's sharp stick.
The President uses Twitter to poke the Twats.
Works for me.
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rinselberg
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DEC 06, 04:15 PM
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During Wednesday's proceedings of the House Judiciary Committee, the lawyer that was representing the Republicans read out a brief excerpt from a new book:
| quote | "Is what Hunter Biden did wrong? Absolutely. Hunter Biden had no real experience in the energy sector, which made him wholly unqualified to sit on the board of Burisma. The only logical reason the company could have had for appointing him was his ties to Vice President Biden.
"This kind of nepotism isn't only wrong; it is a potential danger to our country, since it makes it easier for foreign powers to buy influence [...] No politician, from either party, should allow a foreign power to conduct this kind of influence-peddling with their family members." |
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The book title is "Impeach: The Case Against Donald Trump."
That's where the Republican's lawyer stopped his reading. The book's author, Neal Katyal, was quick to react by providing the paragraph that comes next:
| quote | | "The thing is: it's not illegal. That's why Hunter Biden didn't hide his involvement with Burisma. And it's why President Trump's children - Ivanka, Don Jr., and Eric - continue to conduct business around the world with impunity. As does President Trump's son-in-law, Jared Kushner, who works in the White House." |
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Shane Croucher for Newsweek; December 5, 2019.
https://www.newsweek.com/tr...-neal-katyal-1475667
This is the banner that appears above that report in Newsweek:
| quote | | AUTHOR OF TRUMP IMPEACHMENT BOOK SHAMES GOP LAWYER WHO USED SELECTIVE BIDEN QUOTE: 'IT'S SO PATHETIC' |
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I don't know about the ALL CAPS, or the wording of the banner (as I call it.) That's how it appears in Newsweek. My first inclination (had I been the page editor) would likely have been to "tone it down" or use a more distant kind of perspective. Like this:
| quote | | Author of "Impeach: The Case Against Donald Trump" weighs in on how his book was used during the impeachment hearings. |
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"The blindfold is meant for Lady Justice--but not for us."
~ rinselberg[This message has been edited by rinselberg (edited 12-06-2019).]
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olejoedad
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DEC 06, 04:48 PM
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Even though three 'witnesses' were chosen by the Democrats and one by the Republicans, the reason they were there was to (ostensibly) represent the Constitution.
This is important to note, as impeachment should be for "high crimes and misdemeanors" - NOT POLITICAL DIFFERENCES.
Only one of the four represented the Constitution with the words that were spoken.
Perhaps the 'witness' only read the exerpt from the book, because the Presidents family members have no bearing on this issue, whereas the Biden family name has ties to the issue, going back several years before the President entered politics.
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rinselberg
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DEC 06, 05:10 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by olejoedad:
Even though three 'witnesses' were chosen by the Democrats and one by the Republicans, the reason they were there was to (ostensibly) represent the Constitution.
This is important to note, as impeachment should be for "high crimes and misdemeanors" - NOT POLITICAL DIFFERENCES.
Only one of the four represented the Constitution with the words that were spoken.
Perhaps the 'witness' only read the exerpt from the book, because the Presidents family members have no bearing on this issue, whereas the Biden family name has ties to the issue, going back several years before the President entered politics. |
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I do think that the President's family members are tied to what's at stake, as it raises a question in my mind:
| quote | | Does it seem credible that President Trump has an honest concern about the Biden family's connections with Ukraine, when he has created a very similar appearance himself, that there could be Influence Peddling going on, even at this very moment, involving Jared Kushner and Ivanka Trump and their connections with foreign governments and overseas business venues? |
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But here's a new report that I think is even more intriguing:
"Phone Logs in Impeachment Report renew concern about security of Trump communications"
Paul Sonne, Josh Dawsey, Ellen Nakashima and Greg Miller; for the Washington Post; December 6, 2019.
PAGE LINK
Here's how the report opens:
| quote | President Trump has routinely communicated with his personal lawyer, Rudolph W. Giuliani, and other individuals speaking on cellphones vulnerable to monitoring by Russian and other foreign intelligence services, current and former U.S. officials said.
Phone records released this week by the House Intelligence Committee revealed extensive communications between Giuliani, unidentified people at the White House and others involved in the campaign to pressure Ukraine, with no indication that those calls were encrypted or otherwise shielded from foreign surveillance.
The revelations raise the possibility that Moscow was able to learn about aspects of Trump’s attempt to get Ukraine to investigate a political rival months before that effort was exposed by a whistleblower report and the impeachment inquiry, officials said. |
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I have got this idea for a fictional "spy thriller", about a Russian mole who manages to get himself elected as the President of the United States and uses open, unencrypted cellphone communications with his confederates--a former mayor of New York City, in one chapter--as a Hiding In Plain Sight method that enables Russian military intelligence and ultimately Vladimir Putin to keep an uninterrupted watch over his progress.[This message has been edited by rinselberg (edited 12-06-2019).]
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olejoedad
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DEC 06, 05:16 PM
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Too late, the Manchurian Candidate has already been written, and has left office....
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randye
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DEC 06, 05:37 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by rinselberg:
"Phone Logs in Impeachment Report .....
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"Philip Wegmann of RealClearPolitics reported that Schiff and his impeachment investigators mistook a generic number generated by the White House switchboard to mask outgoing calls for an actual OMB telephone number:"
https://www.breitbart.com/p...-impeachment-report/[This message has been edited by randye (edited 12-06-2019).]
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rinselberg
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DEC 06, 06:49 PM
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That does not debunk or contradict the new report in the Washington Post about the President's cellphone habits.
The report that is referenced in my previous message.
| quote | | Trump is not identified by name in the House phone records, but investigators said they suspect he may be a person with a blocked number listed as “-1” in the files. And administration officials said separately that Trump has communicated regularly with Giuliani on unsecured lines. |
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[This message has been edited by rinselberg (edited 12-06-2019).]
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randye
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DEC 06, 07:34 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by rinselberg:
...the President's cellphone habits.
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| quote | | Trump is not identified by name in the House phone records, ....... |
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Do you even READ mentally ill the sh*t you post Ronald or does it just sort of "free flow" out of your diseased head onto the keyboard?
It has to be horribly difficult for you to manage day to day in a bizarre world where your mentally ill fantasies override reality in every aspect of your life.[This message has been edited by randye (edited 12-06-2019).]
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