And for my next trick, some hardware to be implanted... (Page 2/7)
FrugalFiero APR 18, 09:46 AM

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Originally posted by maryjane:
Can't say I'm looking forward to it one bit, or the 6 weeks of being on Warfarin afterwards, but that's the decision Jane & I came to. (well, mostky she did)



Don't let it get to ya.

I figure life is short, and it sounds like your life if still pretty good. If I can get a fix to keep it going for awhile longer why not? I'll meet my maker soon enough.

FieroTony APR 18, 10:10 AM

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Originally posted by olejoedad:

Good luck, Don!

(I could tell a story about a vasectomy and being shaved by my wife beforehand)



Yup, been there. I must say she's not attracted to the hairless little boy idea. (And that's a good thing!!)

Good luck a best wishes MJ.
Tony Kania APR 18, 10:46 AM
This household always cares. Always. Our best Don.
maryjane APR 18, 12:06 PM

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Originally posted by cliffw:

First of all, best wishes Don. If you need anything I can help you with, all you need to do is ask.

I have a questions of my own. I don't understand the procedure.
They release the doo hickey and it is permanently implanted ? What keeps it in place ?


Fixation barbs. There are tiny barbs on the outside of the springy stainless steel part of the device that engage the wall of the appendage itself, and most LAAs are shaped such that the entrance is a bit smaller than the rest of the cavity as well.
After a few weeks, tissue (endocardium) normally grows over the device and it becomes permanently in place regardless of the barbs.





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My dumb mind thinks it is on the outflow path of blood from the heart. Why not the inflow, to keep clots from entering the heart ?

Your descriptive image says "it stops harmful blood clots from entering the blood stream". How so ? Where do clots come from ? I thought they were formed in the blood stream.


No...The clots form IN and come FROM the LAA.

The Left Arterial Appendage is just a little out crop from that chamber of the heart. It is a void..a single opening to the left atrium (top left chamber of the heart) ..no 'outlet'.. Everyone has one. It is postulated that at some time in our long biological development, it may have been a useul organ or even an artery that led somewhere, but now is just a little empty, closed ended outcrop of tissue, about the size (and often roughly the shape) of a single broccoli floret. Blood doesn't actually 'flow thru" it. It pools up in it and anytime blood pools, it coagulates--forms clots. For most people it isn't an issue, as blood flow thru the heart is a pretty smooth un-interrupted flow and the clots within the LAA just stay there or slowly dissolved and/or reincorporated into blood or carried off as waste. But, when you have Afib, that smooth flow is changed as the different chambers are no longer electrically in sync with each other. Eddys whirlpools and backflows in the flow begin, and there is a high risk of a clot being dislodged from the LAA and entering the bloodstream which is the #1 cause of stroke.

Most people don't realize just how quickly blood makes the complete path from heart, thru the body and back to the heart. It's very fast. Didn't realize it myself until I started having CT scans with iodine contrast. You're in the CT machine with an IV in your arm, and the tech says "OK, I'm going to introduce the iodine. You will feel a warm sensation in certain parts of your body".
It happens in seconds..less than 30 for sure, closer to 10 seconds..you feel it in your gonads, lymph nodes, pancreas, and other places. (the 1st time, I had to look to see if I had not peed or ejaculated..it was just an odd warm feeling everywhere. So, once a clot is dislodged, it can make the trip up to your brain PDQ.

Blood thinners...these are the 1st line of defense against stroke for heart disease patients, especially those who have had bypass surgery and have afib. I have been on an aspirin/day since Sept 2015, have been on every blood thinner/anti-platelet there is except warfarin (Plavix, Zarelto, Pradaxa, Eliquis). All cause a problem I haven't talked much about at all.

Certain people (myself included) bleed spontaneously and for no explainable or predictable reason when on the better blood thinners, usually internally thru mucus type membranes. In the last 6 months, I've bled from my eyes, my nose, thru my urine and probably in my poop. I've been to the emergency room several times for blood in my urine, and not just a little. Christmas Day, I began bleeding from my nose for no reason, and twice have had bloody tears from my eyes. The urinary bleeding is the worst. It's shocking, after 67 years of yellow piss, to look down and see a steady dark red or brown stream, and persists for several days if I don't get off blood thinners. And of course, with my active lifestyle working with machinery, fencing and cattle, I'm constantly cutting and bruising myself and bleed like a pig if I'm on thinners. My urologist wanted to know why I was having this procedure done and he had never heard of it, but after me explaining everything, he even seriously asked if I had been out of the country and visited West Africa places like Nigeria where Ebola was a risk. It's disconcerting to wake up in the morning and find a bloody pillow from one of your eye sockets bleeding. And of course, I get anemic sometimes when having the bleeding problem.

I will tho, be on warfarin for 8-12 weeks after the procedure because there is a likelihood that implanting the device itself will dislodge a clot.
It will not be fun. A weekly blood draw to measure how much warfarin I have in me at any time.

[This message has been edited by maryjane (edited 04-18-2018).]

aceman APR 18, 01:20 PM
Don, hope all goes well for you.

This has not been a fun read for me, two months removed from having a heart attack at and a stent put in at age 49. I'm still trying to get used to all the damn meds I'm on and the side effects. They really screw with me trying to enjoy a cigarette!
maryjane APR 18, 02:14 PM

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Originally posted by aceman:

Don, hope all goes well for you.

This has not been a fun read for me, two months removed from having a heart attack at and a stent put in at age 49. I'm still trying to get used to all the damn meds I'm on and the side effects. They really screw with me trying to enjoy a cigarette!


The key is having a good cardiologist that will listen and you listen to him/her. Mine, just a few months after my heart surgery, gave me her own cell ph # and told me to call her direct, day or night, weekdays or weekends and she has never failed to answer or call me back within minutes. She's also the one that originally found I was diabetic (my primary physician missed it altogether) . If you are having side effects with some of the meds, tell 'em. She flat told me before Christmas 2015.."Don, you're done drinking..smoke if you absolutely have to but not another drop of alcohol". My primary also put me on something (I forget what) and next time I went in to see her, she looked at my meds & said "Uh UH--no. Not with your heart meds and past history...he should have known better..you been thru too much in your life already for me to let you die now". She knows about Vietnam, my snake bite, lightning strike, my work building this place, and every other adventure I've seen.

I've threatened to run away with her if I ever get in better physical shape.......pretty easy on the eyes she is.

There are alternatives to some of the heart meds if one is giving side effects, & There is an over the counter med called CoQ-10 that helps with the effects of statins. It isn't cheap and I'm told most insurance won't pay for it, and I don't know exactly what it does or how it works but it works. $25 for 100 count 200mg gel tabs at CVS..their brand. Ask your cardio guru about it. When I went thru cardio physical rehab at the same hosp that did my bypass, (for 12 weeks after my bypass), the supervisor said her husband (another bypass survivor) was on it and it worked great for him with the statin. That cardio rehab was one of the best things I ever did..rebuilt my heart's muscles.
It has helped a lot that I no longer drink, have lost over 50 lbs in the last year, and get out and get real exercise on top of my daily work routine. Jane & I try to ride bicycles at least 7 miles each day, and I have a pretty good medium cost treadmill I use in inclement weather.


FrugalFiero APR 18, 04:19 PM

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Originally posted by maryjane:
It has helped a lot that I no longer drink, have lost over 50 lbs in the last year, and get out and get real exercise on top of my daily work routine. Jane & I try to ride bicycles at least 7 miles each day, and I have a pretty good medium cost treadmill I use in inclement weather.



You are a cardiologist's dream patient!!
Raydar APR 18, 09:02 PM

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Originally posted by FrugalFiero:


You are a cardiologist's dream patient!!



Yeah. This. Sounds like you're doing the right stuff. Keep on keepin' on.
The "Smoke if you have to, but no booze." thing surprises me a bit, since I'm a reformed sinner... uhhhhh.... smoker. But I guess they know you, and what they need you to do.

Live long and prosper.

maryjane APR 18, 11:57 PM
She knew I was having a hard time dealing with my brother's cancer Raydar and had a hard time staying off the cigs.
Thanks all for your well wishes and prayers.
Time to do the special wash with the anti bacterial they sent home with me and then off to bed in clean sheets. Will be leaving here about 4:30am so this is it for now.
TheDigitalAlchemist APR 19, 12:18 AM
Good luck, friend.