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ray b
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DEC 08, 11:40 AM
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| quote | Originally posted by randye:
Really? Is that so?
So in addition to you being a big fan of anarchy and lawlessness you also have absolutely no knowledge of the United States Constitution, and in specific Article III, Section 2 and the 6th Amendment.
It's now abundantly apparent that we've arrived at the point where you have amply demonstrated that you have neither the basic intellectual capacity or the cognitive ability to engage in a coherent and productive discussion with normal, rational, people.
You may resume your babbling, weird "haiku".
Leftists gotta Leftist
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funny coming from a rumper
you are saying the law is supreme over the will of the people
and a jury is NOT a protection against bad laws and evil officials
as they must always follow bad laws and evil officials
sounds like something putin would like to control people
once he got his rubber stamp duma to pass his laws
they MUST BE FOLLOWED
but thankfully NOT how our system works
AND THE FACT THAT YOU DO NOT UNDERSTAND IS REVEALING
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olejoedad
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DEC 08, 01:04 PM
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Wow......
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ray b
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DEC 08, 02:17 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by olejoedad:
Wow...... |
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why do you think we bother with jurys ?
the judge and att know the LAW
the jury is not trained in the LAW
why is the defense allowed to opt out of a jury
BUT NOT THE STATE in most cases------------------
Question wonder and be wierd
are you kind?
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olejoedad
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DEC 08, 06:40 PM
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There are no words that come to mind as to a response......
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ray b
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DEC 08, 06:49 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by olejoedad:
There are no words that come to mind as to a response...... |
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o come on
why is the defendant allowed to say NO JURY
but the state is mostly not
what is the reason for that ?------------------
Question wonder and be wierd
are you kind?
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ray b
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DEC 08, 07:01 PM
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btw randy
here is a bit of real anarchy from my favorite site sailing anarchy
VERY NOT WORK SAFE THEY SWEAR LIKE THE SAILORS THEY ARE
AND POST NAKED PIC NONE IN THE LINK THO
https://forums.sailinganarc...-be-on-to-something/
IT IS ABOUT Gop ELECTION CHEATING and how deathsanto's blew it
thought you may want to see non echo chamber real opinions
and how sailing anarchy treats the rightwing lies
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Jake_Dragon
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DEC 08, 07:10 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by ray b:
o come on
why is the defendant allowed to say NO JURY
but the state is mostly not
what is the reason for that ?
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It is your right to be judged by a jury of your peers. You can turn it down and go before a judge. But the state can not take that right away from you.
I typed this slow and used large Comic font as I know you sometimes have trouble.
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ray b
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DEC 08, 07:23 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by Jake_Dragon:
It is your right to be judged by a jury of your peers. You can turn it down and go before a judge. But the state can not take that right away from you.
I typed this slow and used large Comic font as I know you sometimes have trouble. |
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and skipped right over the WHY the jury exists
you know the porpoise of the jury what they are there for
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rinselberg
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DEC 08, 07:26 PM
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| quote | | . . . the conservative abhors all forms of ideology. An abstract rigorous set of political dogmata: that is ideology, a "political religion," promising the Terrestrial Paradise to the faithful; and ordinarily, that paradise is to be taken by storm. Such a priori designs for perfecting human nature and society are anathema to the conservative, who knows them for the tools and the weapons of coffeehouse fanatics. |
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Are there any "coffeehouse fanatics" on display here, in the conversation that is this forum topic or thread..? Hold that thought.
| quote | | For the conservative, custom, convention, constitution, and prescription are the sources of a tolerable civil social order. Men not being angels, a terrestrial paradise cannot be contrived by metaphysical enthusiasts; yet an earthly hell can be arranged readily enough by ideologues of one stamp or another. Precisely that has come to pass in a great part of the world, during the twentieth century. |
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Those are the words of Russell Kirk, in his "Foreword to the Seventh Revised Edition of The Conservative Mind: From Burke to Eliot." Words that were copyrighted in 1953.
I went and found this online, to follow up on something that was aired much earlier today on MSNBC's Morning Joe. Prior to that moment, I wouldn't have known Russell Kirk "from Adam."
Lights, camera, action . . .
https://youtu.be/9478WcY91eM?t=61
I wouldn't call the forum member who goes by the screen name of ray b a "coffeehouse fanatic", in the way that Russell Kirk wanted that to be taken. No. That would be someone else. Some other forum member who could well be described as a "coffeehouse fanatic" of the kind that Russell Kirk had in mind, when he wrote that paragraph.[This message has been edited by rinselberg (edited 12-09-2021).]
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DEC 08, 08:00 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by rinselberg:
Are there any "coffeehouse fanatics" on display here, in the conversation that is this forum topic or thread..? Hold that thought.
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Like this one?
or this one?
| quote | Originally posted by rinselberg:
Lights, camera, action . . .
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[This message has been edited by williegoat (edited 12-08-2021).]
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