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Hudini
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DEC 07, 05:03 PM
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Treason is helping a foreign enemy against the USA.
You are talking about Sedition actually.
Funny how you don't mention the other "mostly peaceful" protests last year. I wonder why.
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DEC 07, 05:26 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by ray b:
they can convict a ham sandwich is my statement
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There should be a T shirt:
Where has the neighborhood gone?
These days folks can convict a ham sandwich, and marry a dog.
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Rickady88GT
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DEC 07, 06:13 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by ray b:
I do not think our system is just
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Examples please
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every jury should be told they can nullify if they feel the law is not working in the best interest of the community
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I am not a lawyer, so you will need to explain this.
For example, if I understand your comments correctly: you think a jury has the power and authority to just throw out a case for a drug dealer because it targets the underclass and drugs aren't harmful to the community?
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and yes the laws are aimed at suppression of the under class
with way too few cops and other officials ever tried let alone convicted
and even when convicted get way to short or no real sentence
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This is not true. Just propaganda. Police are held to a higher standard than the average person, this is a fact. The use of force policy is not the individual Officers own made up rules. The Officers follow policies or get fired. You may not like the laws they enforce or the use of force policies they perform within, and that is understandable. But your blame is placed in the wrong place.
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the truly rich get a free pass far too often
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This is a complaint that is older than America, it isn't an American issue, it a human nature issue. People practically worship celebrities and money. So the rich by the best, not complicated.
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btw rump lost get over it
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LOL, ok so this means in 2022 you will just get over it right......sure
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the revolt on 1-6-21 was treason not trespass
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When the courts reduce, throw out and fail to convict ANYONE for "revolting" and "treason", you will just get over it......right? LOLOLOLOL
You seriously need to get educated and stop listening to the circus of hate. America will never grow or over come our faults or shortcomings with lies and hate spewed as if some how it I truth. People don't respond well those type of "conversations".
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ray b
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DEC 07, 06:26 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by Hudini:
Treason is helping a foreign enemy against the USA.
You are talking about Sedition actually.
Funny how you don't mention the other "mostly peaceful" protests last year. I wonder why.
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maybe because I mostly support the street protests
60's civil rights voting and schools we won that
and eventually stopped the war so everyone came home
and as a black friend said
the riots only happen when someone is killed by the cops
if the cops stop killing there will be no riots
now people in HK do not like the new rules
others are afraid of the vax
people find things too be upset about
and yes stopping the government is treason no other power needed
but throw in hang mike pence and it is an over the top slam dunk
esp when they had a noose
plus the other officials on their little lists
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Question wonder and be wierd
are you kind?
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ray b
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DEC 07, 06:36 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by Rickady88GT:
When the courts reduce, throw out and fail to convict ANYONE for "revolting" and "treason", you will just get over it......right? LOLOLOLOL
I am not a lawyer, so you will need to explain this.
For example, if I understand your comments correctly: you think a jury has the power and authority to just throw out a case for a drug dealer because it targets the underclass and drugs aren't harmful to the community?
You seriously need to get educated and stop listening to the circus of hate. America will never grow or over come our faults or shortcomings with lies and hate spewed as if some how it I truth. People don't respond well those type of "conversations". |
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that is WHY the jury is there
the jury is the people approving the action of the government
yes if a pot dealer is targeted by a prostituting state att and the locals say NO way
that is why we have jurys no other reason really to inconvenience the people
WHY DO YOU THINK A JURY EXISTS ?
btw an example of legal BS the idea of QUALIFIED IMMUNITY for cops or any other official EVER
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olejoedad
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DEC 07, 06:48 PM
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rayb, as an aside....you do know that it is spelled "weird", right? [This message has been edited by olejoedad (edited 12-07-2021).]
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randye
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DEC 07, 08:27 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by ray b:
every jury should be told they can nullify if they feel the law is not working in the best interest of the community
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That is called ANARCHY
We do not arbitrarily change our laws based on feelings of the moment.
Only the ignorant and childlike mind of a Leftist would believe that is desirable.
A jury's duty is to return a verdict based solely on the law and the facts of the case.
"Jury nullification" is NOT a legally sanctioned function of a jury and it is illegal for any judge or other officer of the court to suggest or present the concept of nullification to a jury.
You supporting LAWLESSNESS and outright stupidity isn't surprising.
Leftists gotta Leftist.....
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| quote | Originally posted by ray b:
WHY DO YOU THINK A JURY EXISTS ?
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You are clearly asking us that question because it's painfully obvious that you have no clue yourself.[This message has been edited by randye (edited 12-07-2021).]
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ray b
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DEC 07, 08:51 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by randye:
That is called ANARCHY
We do not arbitrarily change our laws based on feelings of the moment.
Only the ignorant and childlike mind of a Leftist would believe that is desirable.
A jury's duty is to return a verdict based solely on the law and the facts of the case[/i][/b].
"Jury nullification" is NOT a legally sanctioned function of a jury and it is illegal for any judge or other officer of the court to suggest or present the concept of nullification to a jury.
You supporting LAWLESSNESS and outright stupidity isn't surprising.
Leftists gotta Leftist.....
You are clearly asking us that question because it's painfully obvious that you have no clue yourself.
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make up your mind on what you want to call me
an ANARCHY is not socialist it is real total freedom from everything and it is scary to some
I do tend to like it but fear it is a myth or smoke in the wind
only exits briefly random unrepeatable magic and poof gone
but in degree the more ANARCHY the more freedom just before the whole thing crashes
jury is a FUSE IN THE LAW
something you can't understand mr jones
nullification is very important to freedom
limited government is a lot of work limiting the powers
those who blindly follow the ''law'' fail to understand freedom
and perhaps do not deserve it
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ray b
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DEC 07, 09:00 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by randye:
You are clearly asking us that question because it's painfully obvious that you have no clue yourself.
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no but I fear the putin/trump law is THE LAW system you support
yes I understand why we need jurys
hint courts follow law people need justice
the reason for jury trial is not to follow laws
never was and is a perversion of a check on the system to say it should------------------
Question wonder and be wierd
are you kind?
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randye
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DEC 07, 11:57 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by ray b:
the reason for jury trial is not to follow laws
never was and is a perversion of a check on the system to say it should
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Really? Is that so?
So in addition to you being a big fan of anarchy and lawlessness you also have absolutely no knowledge of the United States Constitution, and in specific Article III, Section 2 and the 6th Amendment.
It's now abundantly apparent that we've arrived at the point where you have amply demonstrated that you have neither the basic intellectual capacity or the cognitive ability to engage in a coherent and productive discussion with normal, rational, people.
You may resume your babbling, weird "haiku".
Leftists gotta Leftist[This message has been edited by randye (edited 12-07-2021).]
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