The narrative that the Capitol protest was a “deadly insurrection” is falling apart (Page 90/110)
rinselberg DEC 06, 07:02 PM

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Originally posted by Rickady88GT:
Is named Ashley


The "window chic" (~ ray b) is--or was, depending on how you prefer to nuance that--"Ashli"--Ashli Babbitt. "Babbitt", like the 1922 novel by Sinclair Lewis.

This forum topic has been having one of its banner days, in terms of "attendance."

I like it.
randye DEC 06, 07:27 PM

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Originally posted by ray b:


well a lot more should be charged but the prostituting att's do not want to do that
mostly for political reasons





The DOJ isn't arresting and prosecuting people for those crimes BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T HAPPEN


The DOJ and it's prosecutors are light-years smarter than you are and they know that they can't prove a crime that didn't happen in a federal court of law so they aren't pursuing those.

If the Biden - Leftist administration thought for a moment that they could charge those people with those crimes they would have done so immediately.


You and your fellow ignorant LEFTISTS believe that those crimes happened because your Leftist propaganda LIED to you and told you that they did.


I mentioned earlier how you Leftists love to just make up dumb crap, and since we could all use a good chuckle, why don't you tell everyone exactly what "political reasons" you claim are preventing those DOJ prosecutors from charging people the way that you think they should....

....this should be hilarious too.


BY THE WAY:



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Originally posted by ray b:

the events were exactly a putsch an attempt to stop the government functions




You clearly don't have a clue what the word "putsch" means.

Folks aren't laughing with you.....they're laughing at you.

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Rickady88GT DEC 06, 07:42 PM

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Originally posted by rinselberg:

The "window chic" (~ ray b) is--or was, depending on how you prefer to nuance that--"Ashli"--Ashli Babbitt. "Babbitt", like the 1922 novel by Sinclair Lewis.

This forum topic has been having one of its banner days, in terms of "attendance."

I like it.



I stand corrected, thank you
Rickady88GT DEC 06, 08:07 PM

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Originally posted by ray b:

btw there are too many different people supporting various actions
or spinning them in other directions while complaining they didnot say or do something


I am not sure I quite understand this comment or who it is addressed to, so I will answer it according to how I interpreted it to say.
I never changed my stance on this issue, as a matter of fact I see this issue very much the same as the covid19 issue. The covid19 virus is real AND the public, media and Government response to it is politically charged. The Jan6 trespassing is the same way, the trespassing did happen, it was real and I never supported it. And it is highly politicized, both issues are politically charged and that is wrong, I never supported their politicization. Just as the covid lock downs were wrong, pointless and ineffective so are the overblown charges levied on the trespassers.
I hope this clears things up for you.

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true

but someone did it

and I responded to it

but perhaps not to you




I do not know who this is directed at.

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ray b DEC 06, 10:00 PM
prosecuting prostituting they both sell their souls

a good one can convict a ham sandwich

but the rightwing FALSE claim of no crime on 1-5-21
is as untrue as trumps claim of a ''win'' with less votes

perhaps in a effort to heal the nation
the charges are very very much less then a revolt/putsch deserve
but we see no such accommodation from the rightwing at all
Rickady88GT DEC 06, 10:50 PM
Mr. Ray B, I by my self have raised half dozen different questions, queries and points of contention and you have yet to do anything other than blame and complain. Oh, hang on.....isn’t that what you actually accused others of doing? Why yes, sir it is.



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Originally posted by ray b:

prosecuting prostituting they both sell their souls

a good one can convict a ham sandwich


And rightfully so,... ham has contributed to a great number of ailments.

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but the rightwing FALSE claim of no crime on 1-5-21
is as untrue as trumps claim of a ''win'' with less votes


LOL, ok show your hand. Prove that "the right wing" claims no crime on said date.
Respectively voter fraud is real. Has it tainted the Trump, biden election? Yes it has. The real voter fraud was suppression of information and freedom of speech. This is undeniable given that the main stream media is a majority against Trump. And the social media sites also actively pursued a strategy of shadow banning or outright deplatforming conservatives.

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perhaps in a effort to heal the nation
the charges are very very much less then a revolt/putsch deserve


Perhaps you should wait for an actual legal judgment on the issue. You have made plenty of false claims your self that you can't back up and you refuse discuss.


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but we see no such accommodation from the rightwing at all


The only failure on this issue is with you. You make outrageous claims about people you do not even know and label them as one of a kind. But isn't that what you say people do towards black people?? Strange how that works
randye DEC 06, 11:14 PM

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Originally posted by ray b:

prosecuting prostituting they both sell their souls

a good one can convict a ham sandwich




SEE THERE!

I knew you could give us all some more laughter.

You Leftists never fail to demonstrate your colossal dumbness while at the same time trying to convince everyone how "intellectual" you are. LOL

In your complete ignorance and garbled understanding of things well beyond your limited intellectual grasp of both the law and famous quotes you have conflated "convict" with indict as well as not having a single damn clue where it came from.


Leftists gotta Leftist....

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Solomon "Sol" Wachtler (born April 29, 1930) is an American lawyer and Republican politician from New York.

He was Chief Judge of the New York Court of Appeals from 1985 to 1992.

Wachtler's most famous quote, made shortly after his appointment as Chief Judge, was that district attorneys could get grand juries to "indict a ham sandwich"

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rinselberg DEC 07, 01:33 PM
What went down at the U.S. Capitol Building on January 6, 2021, another "date that will live in infamy", is not as important as what was happening in the days leading up to January 6, from well before the day of the national elections on November 3, 2020, all the way to the first moments of the assault on the Capitol Building on January 6, until the feces (sad to say) were finally cleared and federal control of the Capitol Building was restored. And even some things that happened in the days after January 6, all the way to President Biden's "taking the oath" on January 20, and even beyond that, to this very day, and even beyond this very day, to what is continuing to happen in the current lead up to the 2022 midterm elections and the 2024 national elections.

This, I believe, is the actual focus of the U.S. House Select Committee to Investigate the January 6th Attack on the United States Capitol, or the "Jan. 6 Committee" as it is less formally described: What is the future of the electoral process in the United States? Will the popular vote within each state decide a state's state-wide elected officials and the slate of presidential electors that the state contributes to the Electoral College for selecting the U.S. President and Vice President? Or could a state's popular vote be swept aside and replaced by partisan and politically motivated declarations emerging from a state's state legislature, or a state's Secretary of State or other election administration officials, or swept aside and overturned by a state's delegation to the U.S. Congress?

The focus of the Jan. 6 Committee is to discover and document what happened and whether new elections-related laws should be formalized and "put on the table", and less about whether there were prosecutable crimes that can be referred to the U.S. Department of Justice for criminal prosecution.

Or that's what the proper focus of the Jan. 6 Committee should be, according to David Frum , former speechwriter for President George W. Bush and a senior political columnist for The Atlantic magazine.


What happened at the U.S. Capitol Building on January 6, 2021..? Well--that is what we're going to try to "Xplain"..!
2.5 DEC 07, 03:05 PM

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Originally posted by rinselberg:

...The focus of the Jan. 6 Committee is to discover and document what happened and whether new elections-related laws should be formalized and "put on the table", and less about whether there were prosecutable crimes that can be referred to the U.S. Department of Justice for criminal prosecution. Or that's what the proper focus of the Jan. 6 Committee should be...



You can keep changing the subject hoping that something sticks, but it doesnt look good.

Yes it is typical that inept politicians and committees continue to try to enact new laws but do not uphold existing laws, or recognize with any amount of common sense what causes the issues they identify.
ray b DEC 07, 04:08 PM
they can convict a ham sandwich is my statement
yes an other said indite

I do not think our system is just
every jury should be told they can nullify if they feel the law is not working in the best interest of the community

and yes the laws are aimed at suppression of the under class
with way too few cops and other officials ever tried let alone convicted
and even when convicted get way to short or no real sentence

the truly rich get a free pass far too often

btw rump lost get over it

the revolt on 1-6-21 was treason not trespass

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