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williegoat
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NOV 17, 09:05 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by RWDPLZ:
program called Handbrake. If you've ever used this program, it isn't boomer friendly at all
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Ahem...
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RWDPLZ
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NOV 17, 09:13 PM
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LOL. I don't know anybody over 50 that would be capable of using it. People capable of posting images in an online forum are technological masterminds compared to most of their peers.
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maryjane
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NOV 17, 09:24 PM
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It's my understanding, that the video presented during trial was the original and the newer version is a 'digitally enhanced' version with the judge cautioning the prosecution about introducing it to the jury.
(The satirical pic of 'Rittenhouse' standing outside the courthouse looks more like a female than a male.)
I don't know about the software program in question but I'm on several forums, military and ranching where the majority of members are ages 50-75 years old and there is no shortage of photos being posted every day. It's not rocket surgery..
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RWDPLZ
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NOV 17, 09:42 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by maryjane:
It's my understanding, that the video presented during trial was the original and the newer version is a 'digitally enhanced' version with the judge cautioning the prosecution about introducing it to the jury.
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No, that was a different piece of evidence. A detective used pinch to zoom on his iPhone to enlarge a picture. The zoom function didn't actually zoom in and make the pixels bigger, it used machine learning to enhance the image and fill in the blank with pixels that were not in the original image to make it appear clearer. It appeared to show what wasn't in the original picture, and should have been ruled inadmissible (but again, nobody with a law degree has basic computer knowledge).
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maryjane
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NOV 17, 10:13 PM
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(Bloomberg) -- A drone video that prosecutors say shows Kyle Rittenhouse aiming his rifle at someone who posed no threat to him was reviewed by the jury in his murder trial on the second day of deliberations after a judge approved their request to see it again.
The drone video allegedly shows Rittenhouse aiming his rifle at Black Lives Matter demonstrators before a man rushes toward him and Rittenhouse shoots him. Rittenhouse’s lawyers asked Kenosha County Circuit Court Judge Bruce Schroeder to declare a mistrial because they say prosecutors gave them a lower quality version of the video than they showed the jury at trial.
Schoroeder said he’d rule later on the defense request, although he warned prosecutors that it was a “high-risk strategy for the state” to submit the video into evidence when technology was used to enhance it.
“I was queasy about this from the beginning, and I’m only queasier about it now.”
(Bloomberg) -- A drone video that prosecutors say shows Kyle Rittenhouse aiming his rifle at someone who posed no threat to him was reviewed by the jury in his murder trial on the second day of deliberations after a judge approved their request to see it again.
The drone video allegedly shows Rittenhouse aiming his rifle at Black Lives Matter demonstrators before a man rushes toward him and Rittenhouse shoots him. Rittenhouse’s lawyers asked Kenosha County Circuit Court Judge Bruce Schroeder to declare a mistrial because they say prosecutors gave them a lower quality version of the video than they showed the jury at trial.
Schoroeder said he’d rule later on the defense request, although he warned prosecutors that it was a “high-risk strategy for the state” to submit the video into evidence when technology was used to enhance it.
“I was queasy about this from the beginning, and I’m only queasier about it now.”
The panel of seven women and five men -- all but one White -- is scheduled to resume deliberations Thursday.
Rittenhouse, 18, killed two men, including the one who rushed him in the video, and wounded a third last year at a chaotic Black Lives Matter protest in Kenosha. He faces the possibility of life in prison without parole if convicted of the most serious charge, first degree intentional homicide. The jury can convict him of lesser charges, which carry lower prison sentences.
Rittenhouse claims he was in Kenosha to protect property during the protests and tend to the injured. He claims he shot the three men in self-defense.
The drone video could undermine the teenager’s claim that he wielded his AR-15-style semiautomatic weapon, which he has said “looked cool,” only to defend himself.
“Their client lied about this on the stand,” Assistant District Attorney James Kraus said. “He was confronted with the exhibit. He denied it.”
Read More: Kyle Rittenhouse Defense Outdid the State, Ex-Wisconsin DA Says
Prosecutors and Rittenhouse’s lawyers sparred heatedly over the evidence that was provided to the defense and over the request for a mistrial. Rittenhouse’s lawyers were “focusing too heavily on a technological glitch” that might have resulted in them receiving a lower quality video by email, Kraus said.
Rittenhouse’s lawyer Corey Chirafisi told the judge his team would have approached things differently if it had received the better footage earlier. He said all he was asking for is “a level, fair playing field.”
The judge showed some frustration over the back-and-forth.
“This isn’t ‘Let’s Make a Deal’ here,” he said at one point.
Kenneth Gray, a senior lecturer at the University of New Haven and a former FBI special agent, said in an interview that the footage is a “crucial” piece of evidence in the case.
“The last-minute introduction of the drone video and the raising of the question of provocation may completely invalidate the defense’s use of self-defense,” he said, characterizing the evidence as “grainy still photos showing what the prosecution claimed was a photo of Rittenhouse aiming his weapon at an individual nearby prior to any attack.”
[This message has been edited by maryjane (edited 11-17-2021).]
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maryjane
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NOV 17, 10:22 PM
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KENOSHA, Wis. — Kyle Rittenhouse’s attorneys asked the judge to declare a mistrial even as the jury in the murder case was deliberating Wednesday, saying the defense received an inferior copy of a potentially crucial video from prosecutors.
Judge Bruce Schroeder did not immediately rule on the request, the second mistrial motion from the defense in a week. The jury deliberated a second full day without reaching a verdict and will return in the morning.
At issue was a piece of drone video that prosecutors showed to the jury in closing arguments in a bid to undermine Rittenhouse’s self-defense claim and portray him as the instigator of the bloodshed in Kenosha in the summer of 2020. Prosecutors said the footage showed him pointing his rifle at protesters before the shooting erupted.
Rittenhouse attorney Corey Chirafisi said the defense initially received a smaller compressed version of the video and didn’t get the higher-quality larger one used by the prosecution until the evidence portion of the case was over.
He said that the defense would have approached things differently if it had received the better footage earlier and that it is now asking for “a level, fair playing field.”
https://www.politico.com/ne...e-trial-video-522908
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Jake_Dragon
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NOV 17, 11:33 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by RWDPLZ:
LOL. I don't know anybody over 50 that would be capable of using it. People capable of posting images in an online forum are technological masterminds compared to most of their peers. |
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Oh young pup, I fixed technology before there was google.
Back then we learned from a book!!
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sourmash
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NOV 18, 09:12 AM
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| quote | Originally posted by Hudini:
You are not reminding us of anything we are not acutely aware of. This is how Trump was elected. People are tired of being called racist, white supremacist, or any other "ist". |
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Oh, hell you aren't anybody I'd target as needing instruction. There are others and one here has parroted the MSNBC, BLM, Antifa 'White supremacist' canard right in the O/T.
Everybody sees the huge and growing hoard of anti-White race haters that are destroying society on purpose so they don't have to contribute and perform any civic duties to support a healthy culture.
Even while there is a small contingency of highly racist White people they have zero strength, they have no platform and pose almost zero threat even if they had one. They just want to be with themselves and to point out the obvious failures we all see around us.
Moderates are group thinkers. Conservatives are like-minded.
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williegoat
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NOV 18, 11:01 AM
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82-T/A [At Work]
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NOV 18, 11:27 AM
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| quote | Originally posted by RWDPLZ:
LOL. I don't know anybody over 50 that would be capable of using it. People capable of posting images in an online forum are technological masterminds compared to most of their peers. |
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**** !!! I am 43, and so close to that magic "50" number you talk about.
I don't want to become old and irrelevant!!! Hopefully I make as much as possible so I can buy cheap adolescent labor to figure out all my technical problems for me.
I used to be "THE" technical mastermind... I mean, I hacked Bulletin Board Systems growing up. The early internet was my playground and I ran roughshod over cross site scripting and command injection. %27 was how I lived. For decades I was a master-level programmer... doing everything from C# to assembly, to Mumps. Then for another decade, I was a master at cyber security, developing many of the tools that people use today, and personally having written a 176 page forensic manual for Blue Teams all across the United States.
And now you're telling me that in 7 years, I will be irrelevant.
This sucks. A year ago, my 12-year old daughter was trying to beat me in a race. Having been one of my high school's fastest runners, and won at regionals with my teammates... I couldn't let it happen. I found it in myself that sprint that I had... you know... the one where each foot only touches the ground every 10+ meters when I'm at full stride. I managed to beat her... moving all 220 pounds of my 6'3" fat-ass past her 100 pound 5' whatever. But I knew it wasn't the same as when I was in high school. Immediately after, I could feel in both legs that something was wrong, and had to walk it off for at least another 100 meters. Everything was fine, and then when I woke up the next morning, I could barely move.
Getting old really, really sucks. I thought at least as I got older, my brain would improve, and now I'm realizing that it's not... hahaha...
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