Trump Protestors Storm Capitol; Armed Standoff at House Floor (Page 9/21)
sourmash JAN 07, 12:31 AM

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Originally posted by Bradley Jay:

Your comparisons are neither equivalent nor coherent. You referred to these people as “patriots”. This is the Capitol building. And a “patriot” as you identify for them died. In exchange for violating a significant symbol of American democracy you have lost support for this ideal in government, and gained... nothing substantial. That’s putting it lightly.


No. I didn't. I responded to a statement that it has never happened in our blah-blah-blah, false pomp and virtue signal blah-blah-blah. You fail so hard at both discussions it's bound to happen with 100 predictability.


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However, based on your previous word vomit above regarding race it is hard to imagine that I am talking to anyone other than a sick individual. I am no longer going to grab your low-hanging fruit.



Dude, stay away from my fruit. It might be tempting, but don't.

WS say POC have a higher IQ. They say that. Deal with it.
randye JAN 07, 01:55 AM

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Originally posted by Synthesis:

We are that point in history where if you choose to continue supporting Trump, you are a terrorist sympathizer.

You have had four years to spew your right-wing vitriol... It's time to sit down, shut up, and let the adults do their jobs to put our country back together.



Unfortunately for you there are no adults on the Left which is manifestly evident by you calling 74 Million Americans "terrorist sympathizers".

As I recall you also delight in calling people on this forum Nazis and racists so there's that too.

You are better served by heeding your own "sit down and shut up" admonishment.

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MidEngineManiac JAN 07, 02:19 AM
People have had beyond enough.

They want their freedom back. They want their rights back. They are tired of being pushed around, bullied and micro-managed. Most just want to earn their living and be left alone to enjoy life, and not be slaves to the system. That's what Trump was trying to do mostly.

The left are determined they wont have that.

Yes, they will. One way or another.
williegoat JAN 07, 03:18 AM
The vandals in DC sent a message, they made a statement. It was the same message as the spoiled brats in Portland and Seattle last summer: They don't give a damn about anyone but themselves. They really screwed all of us.

The good people who were there need to grab the instigators by the nape of the neck and bring them out into the light of day.

I am a conservative and I believe Trump has done an admirable job. I believe the election was stolen. I am also opposed to unnecessary, pointless, counterproductive violence and destruction. None of my beliefs are up for debate, so have fun, trolls.

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rinselberg JAN 07, 04:21 AM
Accept it at "Face Value"..?

"Facial recognition firm claims ANTIFA infiltrated Trump protesters who stormed Capitol"

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A retired military officer told The Washington Times that the firm XRVision used its software to do facial recognition of protesters and matched two Philadelphia antifa members to two men inside the Senate.

The source provided the photo match to The Times.

Rowan Scarborough for the Washington Times; January 6, 2021.
https://www.washingtontimes...iltrated-protesters/


"Trump loyalists push evidence-free claims that ANTIFA activists fueled mob"

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On Wednesday night when Congress reconvened to resume the certification of President-elect Joe Biden's win, [Trump ally] Rep. Matt Gaetz, R-Fla., used his time to also float that antifa was behind the violence.

“I don’t know if the reports are true, but The Washington Times has just reported some pretty compelling evidence from a facial recognition company that some of the people who breached the Capitol today were not Trump supporters, they were masquerading as Trump supporters, and in fact were members of the violent terrorist group antifa,” Gaetz said.

Brandy Zadrozny and Ben Collins for NBC News; January 6, 2021.
https://www.nbcnews.com/tec...-fueled-mob-n1253176


Yin and Yang. Point and Counterpoint. Matter and Anti-matter. "You make the call."

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rinselberg JAN 07, 05:45 AM
"The glove that dare not speak its name"

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Correct me if I'm mistaken here, but I think this is President Trump addressing the "Stop The Steal" protesters yesterday in front of the White House and urging them to walk en masse along Pennsylvania Avenue and reassemble in front of the Capitol Building.

According to the video that I have seen (aired on MSNBC; hope it's not a "deep fake") President Trump told the protesters that he would be with them in front of the Capitol Building, but that did not happen. He did not "Make It So."

Jus sayin'

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Wichita JAN 07, 06:50 AM
The Trump Presidency and Covid should have really taught people something very important that those who really understand our pollical system have been saying all along and way before Trump, Obama, Bush and etc.

But the media and social media even more has also deepen the miscaption about our pollical system that many people have become so ingrained to looking at it through such a narrow lens that they don't make any logical sense, yet it is passed as mainstream thinking. Our only really saving grace from this is that "mostly" it is harmless to everyone in our current era. Not to say that it has or leads to widespread economic damage and deaths as collateral damage, but modernity is really changing that.



Much like religion and those that would identify as religious. I remember seeing a presentation on a survey by Neil Tyson, that 90% of the USA would identify as religious. But if you had a college degree (in any field), 70% of those people in that group would identify as religious. If you had a college degree in hard science and engineering , the number of religious people dropped to 40%. It went all the way to those that had PhD's in hard science, and that group, those that identify as religious dropped to 7%. The point was that the more you deeply understand subjects, committed to higher learning and understand and uncovering truths, the more likely you were to know that there is no sky God. But those that are religious and believe in a sky god and that someone is listening to your prayers, it is really ok, because it is mostly harmless thinking and really doesn't harm you.

The same applies to politics. People that are highly politically charged are no different that those that are religious. The media figures and pundits on TV or any media platform, like Rachel Maddow and Sean Hannity are the same as any religious tv evangelist like Pat Robertson. If you like them and want to stay politically charged, then so be it. It's mostly harmless to absorbed current events spinned to political camps and the satire and trolling that takes place because of it. Sometimes it's entertaining and fun. For many it causes stress and unfounded fears, but so do sharks and spiders.

For those that studied Political Science, we never worried about Obama, Trump, Biden or any other President. Because we know that Presidents have very little power to do anything, especially domestically. And that our system is resilient enough to survive most anything, with the recent example of the Trump Presidency. Your local city council person or county commissioner has more power to affect your personal life than the President and Congress could ever do, yet hardly anyone could even name their own city council person that represents them. As you should have experienced in 2020 with Covid, that Governors have more power than the President, Congress and the entire Judiciary system in America has.

If you listen to the pundits, if you are consumed by the Washington Post, Fox News, NBC or whatever, it is all religious talk from religious people.

I'm glad we had a Trump Presidency to really show people that even a highly charged political environment it created with Tea Party/Trumpsters and BLM/Antifa/99%ers protesters seemingly causing a ruckus, that most everyone is living ordinary lives and ordinary concerns and problem that no matter who the political characters are, they won't and cannot change anything for you. You will also see this with Pee Pad Biden. We will experience a feeble man, who clearly has sundowners and dementia, who you will barely see or hear from (opposite of Trump), and the country and your life will not really change. We will experience a President that will never make a decision on his own, will barely work a couple of hours in a day at best and our system of government will continue to operate as it always have.


Even those on here on PFF, most all really just religious people who just regurgitate stuff from MEM to rinselberg. But is harmless and they are too. Just nobodies with silly ideas.

Meanwhile:

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cliffw JAN 07, 07:47 AM

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Originally posted by cvxjet:
Are you for Trump....Or are you for America? You can't claim both.



I disagree. Are you crazy ?
cliffw JAN 07, 07:55 AM

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Originally posted by Bradley Jay:
I don’t care about your politics, with all due respect. Not even going to bother entertaining a conversation in that regard.




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Originally posted by sourmash:
The Capitol building got a little cleansing today. I feel better about it now that the citizens illustrated a point to the elite.




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Originally posted by Bradley Jay:
Oh yeah? How so?

What did you accomplish today?



You accomplished proving that you do not mean what you say.


rinselberg JAN 07, 08:09 AM
Well cliffw, aren't you kind of splitting a hair with that one?

Good morning (by the way.)