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ray b DEC 06, 12:55 PM

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Originally posted by Rickady88GT:

Then why are blm and antifa not charged with the same crimes. Example: Kyle Rittenhouse. People died trying to kill an innocent person who was targeted for political and social differences. How many of the rioters and looters that night were charged that night for the deaths? Let's make this easier for you, how many convicted felons illegally in possession of a firearm and illegal threatening the life of a minor with said illegal firearm were charged for the illegal possession and deaths committed during a hate crime?




COULD BE

I do not like or support the law to be used that way

but it is so overly broad that it can be stretched to fit

the window chic was killed in commission of the crime of B&E TO SUPPORT A PUTSCH
THERE WERE PEOPLE BEHIND HER WHO WERE PART OF HER CRIME
should others not with her be charged ? that is something for a court of law to try

in the street riots over killer cops if you want to charge others for acts not related to your boy with the ar-15
can the cops be charged with starting the whole mess ?
where do they stop with an overly broad laws ?

in the capital case there were people right next to her aiding her actions
ie direct accomplice in legal speak but no charges for her death

Rickady88GT DEC 06, 01:27 PM
Let's discuss this then


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Originally posted by ray b:


COULD BE

I do not like or support the law to be used that way

but it is so overly broad that it can be stretched to fit


In California they are taking aim at this very Law, right or wrong.

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the window chic


Is named Ashley

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was killed in commission of the crime of B&E TO SUPPORT A PUTSCH


First there is no evidence she was involved in such a crime that was punishable by death. She was no threat to anyone in her immediate area and she had no weapons.

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THERE WERE PEOPLE BEHIND HER WHO WERE PART OF HER CRIME
should others not with her be charged ? that is something for a court of law to try


Ashley did not commit a murder, so exactly how does the killing of an unarmed woman warrant the arrest and charges of a death for people who were trespassing, peacefully demonstrating and or protesting? More people were killed by blm and antifa than the Jan6 trespassing. More monetary damages were tallied up by blm and antifa at their riots. nancy pelosi caused 10s of millions of dollars more to the taxpayers than the Jan6 trespassers, with her fence and off limits policies.
Do you even know of any official criminal charges levied against her?

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in the street riots over killer cops if you want to charge others for acts not related to your boy with the ar-15
can the cops be charged with starting the whole mess ?
where do they stop with an overly broad laws ?


What "killer cops"? This is clearly a figment of your imagination. The rioters that night rioted because they are racist. Not because of a Police shooting. The events that led up the the race riot was the shooting of an armed, convicted rapist who assaulted his babies mama. She called the Police on him, so the Police showed up to investigate. He ran from the Police and they shot him for producing a weapon. The riots that night were the fault of blm antifa domestic terrorists, who rioted for gangland style street control and primal jollies and looting because they knew there wouldn't be any intervention from Law Enforcement.

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in the capital case there were people right next to her aiding her actions
ie direct accomplice in legal speak but no charges for her death



So, the people behind her were also trespassing, and they should be charged for such a crime. Her death and cover-up is a separate criminal accusation unrelated to her responsibility or accountability in the matter.

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ray b DEC 06, 01:45 PM
SOMEBODY BROKE THE WINDOW SHE WAS CRAWLING THRU
was it her or an other ?
breaking and entering is a felony
so is entry if an other does the breaking double felony her and others
lots of people supporting her actions there then to be charged

why do you want some others charged but not the capital invaders ?
why is treason by some OK in your world
and property more valuable then honest government ?

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Jake_Dragon DEC 06, 01:58 PM

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Originally posted by ray b:

SOMEBODY BROKE THE WINDOW SHE WAS CRAWLING THRU
was it her or an other ?
breaking and entering is a felony
so is entry if an other does the breaking double felony her and others
lots of people supporting her actions there then to be charged

why do you want some others charged but not the capital invaders ?
why is treason by some OK in your world
and property more valuable then honest government ?




So breaking a window is a felony, does that meet the required response of shooting her?
If felony trespassing warrants the officer shooting the person then why are looters able to steal and burn and officers do nothing?

Where are you with your jack boot thug responses? You can't have it both ways.
Rickady88GT DEC 06, 02:05 PM

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Originally posted by ray b:

SOMEBODY BROKE THE WINDOW SHE WAS CRAWLING THRU
was it her or an other ?
breaking and entering is a felony


It doesn't matter if she was the one who broke the window, she shouldn't have been there under those circumstances, she was trespassing.
Not all States have the same laws, for example in California walking through an unlocked door without breaking anything can still be braking and entering.

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so is entry if an other does the breaking double felony her and others
lots of people supporting her actions there then to be charged


Lots of people are being charged and most will have the charges reduced or thrown out because of over zealous politicized accusations and charges that don't fit the actions.


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why do you want some others charged but not the capital invaders ?


And what exactly are the charges I want ignored and what charges should I demand?

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why is treason by some OK in your world
and property more valuable then honest government ?


First and foremost, you are accusing me of something I have not done and do not support. I do not support or encourage treason or trespassing. The trespassers should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. If there are more serious crimes, then I support the prosecution of those as well.
Both property AND honest Government are worth fighting for, that is why we have laws and elections.
What's the point? That it is ok for domestic terrorists like blm and antifa to burn loot and murder because they are angry? What if other hate groups like the kkk get upset? blm is just the same as the kkk, so how would you feel about them burning looting and murdering without Law Enforcement interference?
Of course hate groups like the kkk should not be allowed to brake the law any more or less than the hate groups blm and antifa.
Laws are laws, black or white, NOBODY should get away scot free, not even the rich or famous. You think you are the only one angry at hypocrisy in Law and society? Wake up, you are not unique or alone in frustration or anger over wrong doings including by bad cops. Bad cops make the entire system look bad, but throwing away the baby with the bath water is inviting even more corrupt systems and people to fill the void.
Saying all Police are corrupt is like saying all black people are criminals. Neither is true and we need to prosecute bad Police and criminals alike NO MATTER their color, status, job or wealth.

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2.5 DEC 06, 03:27 PM

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Originally posted by ray b:

why is treason by some OK in your world





Treason heh. Lots of politicians guilty of that. Hang 'em high.
randye DEC 06, 03:38 PM

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Originally posted by ray b:


the window chic was killed in commission of the crime of B&E TO SUPPORT A PUTSCH






HAHAHAHAHAHA!

Please tell us exactly what US federal law covers "the crime of B&E TO SUPPORT A PUTSCH" ?

Can you give us a list of all the people who have been arrested and charged with "putsching"?

We know that you Leftists love to make up dumb sh!t as you go, but this one is hilarious, including your lame attempt to try to "nazify" the issue by using an inappropriate German language term.

It's childish and stupid, but you're not the first Leftie to try to play the Nazi card in this thread in some way.

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While we're at it this is a good time to remind you that:

As of today, NOBODY HAS BEEN CHARGED WITH INSURRECTION ( 18 U.S. Code § 2383) as a result of the MOSTLY PEACEFUL events of January 6, 2021

As of today, NOBODY HAS BEEN CHARGED WITH SEDITION ( 18 U.S. Code § 2384) as a result of the MOSTLY PEACEFUL events of January 6, 2021

As of today, NOBODY HAS BEEN CHARGED WITH ADVOCATING OVERTHROW OF GOVERNMENT (18 U.S. Code § 2385) as a result of the MOSTLY PEACEFUL events of January 6, 2021

As of today, NOBODY HAS BEEN CHARGED WITH THREATENING GOVERNMENT OFFICIALS OF THE UNITED STATES (under 18 U.S.C. § 871 or 18 U.S. Code § 351 or 18 U.S. Code § 115 or any local statute) as a result of the MOSTLY PEACEFUL events of January 6, 2021

As of today, NOBODY HAS BEEN CHARGED WITH TERRORISM (18 U.S. Code CHAPTER 113B § 2331) as a result of the MOSTLY PEACEFUL events of January 6, 2021

As of today, NOBODY HAS BEEN CHARGED WITH RIOT (18 U.S. Code § 2101) as a result of the MOSTLY PEACEFUL events of January 6, 2021

...and obviously:


As of today, NOBODY HAS BEEN CHARGED WITH PUTCHING (das Recht Deutschlands oder Strafgesetzbuch) as a result of the MOSTLY PEACEFUL events of January 6, 2021

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randye DEC 06, 04:13 PM

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Originally posted by Jake_Dragon:


Where are you with your jack boot thug responses? You can't have it both ways.





But Leftists DO insist on having it both ways....and even more ways.

Rational, normal, people are always bewildered at how Leftists will simultaneously hold two or more completely contradictory and irreconcilable positions in their heads and they never question it or even seem to notice it.

That is one of the chief reasons that Leftism is rightfully considered a mental illness.

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ray b DEC 06, 06:23 PM

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Originally posted by randye:


HAHAHAHAHAHA!

Please tell us exactly what US federal law covers "the crime of B&E TO SUPPORT A PUTSCH" ?

Can you give us a list of all the people who have been arrested and charged with "putsching"?

We know that you Leftists love to make up dumb sh!t as you go, but this one is hilarious, including your lame attempt to try to "nazify" the issue by using an inappropriate German language term.

It's childish and stupid, but you're not the first Leftie to try to play the Nazi card in this thread in some way.

......


While we're at it this is a good time to remind you that:

As of today, NOBODY HAS BEEN CHARGED WITH INSURRECTION ( 18 U.S. Code § 2383) as a result of the MOSTLY PEACEFUL events of January 6, 2021

As of today, NOBODY HAS BEEN CHARGED WITH SEDITION ( 18 U.S. Code § 2384) as a result of the MOSTLY PEACEFUL events of January 6, 2021

As of today, NOBODY HAS BEEN CHARGED WITH ADVOCATING OVERTHROW OF GOVERNMENT (18 U.S. Code § 2385) as a result of the MOSTLY PEACEFUL events of January 6, 2021

As of today, NOBODY HAS BEEN CHARGED WITH THREATENING GOVERNMENT OFFICIALS OF THE UNITED STATES (under 18 U.S.C. § 871 or 18 U.S. Code § 351 or 18 U.S. Code § 115 or any local statute) as a result of the MOSTLY PEACEFUL events of January 6, 2021

As of today, NOBODY HAS BEEN CHARGED WITH TERRORISM (18 U.S. Code CHAPTER 113B § 2331) as a result of the MOSTLY PEACEFUL events of January 6, 2021

As of today, NOBODY HAS BEEN CHARGED WITH RIOT (18 U.S. Code § 2101) as a result of the MOSTLY PEACEFUL events of January 6, 2021

...and obviously:


As of today, NOBODY HAS BEEN CHARGED WITH PUTCHING (das Recht Deutschlands oder Strafgesetzbuch) as a result of the MOSTLY PEACEFUL events of January 6, 2021




well a lot more should be charged but the prostituting att's do not want to do that
mostly for political reasons

the events were exactly a putsch an attempt to stop the government functions
they were NOT peaceful people died

you are nowhere as good or lucky at spinning BS as the rump is

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ray b DEC 06, 06:39 PM
btw there are too many different people supporting various actions
or spinning them in other directions while complaining they didnot say or do something

true

but someone did it

and I responded to it

but perhaps not to you

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