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theBDub FEB 22, 03:50 PM

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Originally posted by Fats:

I don't understand the reporting. Why? It's politics, it gets messy sometimes, It'll likely never be things we agree on. I get that almost all of us are just peeing into the wind, but I enjoy some of it. :/

I really enjoy reading different the different points of view, but we do get out of hand from time to time.



I have reported maybe 3 or 4 of randye’s posts. I don’t think I ever reported any before then.

It’s not because I’m “offended,” it’s because he clearly and often violates forum rules that Cliff has specifically put in place to stem some of the vitriol.

I have had tons of pleasant, fruitful conversations with users who vehemently disagree with me, and vice versa. Randy seems to have a hard time doing so. It’s worth specifically calling out, and if I get banned for this, then I am banned. But he, personally, has made this forum a worse place to be. He, personally, attacks multiple users and doesn’t let off until he gets a reaction. It’s hard to watch.

I am only really here for politics (lol), so even my limited presence here will go way down. I don’t want politics to go away at all. I hope that I didn’t contribute to this in a meaningful way by reporting a small handful of comments.
2.5 FEB 22, 04:51 PM

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Originally posted by Cliff Pennock:

I've considered several solutions - all take quite some time to implement.
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Hundreds of posts getting reported? Is some of the problem a member or two who are report happy? I'm just curious if there is a trend there.

Threads and thread starters, and non problem users should not be punished by thread removal for certain users issues.

Also of concern, are any of the reporters also participants in what are deemed "overly agressive arguments" for lack of a better word?

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sourmash FEB 22, 05:10 PM

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Originally posted by theBDub:
if I get banned for this, then I am banned.



Fear of repercussion probably keeps many people from posting their opinions.
2.5 FEB 22, 05:15 PM

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Originally posted by sourmash:

Fear of repercussion probably keeps many people from posting their opinions.



In my opinion it has always been about how one speaks their opinion, and more specifically how one interacts with others.

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Fats FEB 22, 05:42 PM

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Originally posted by 2.5:


Hundreds of posts getting reported? Is some of the problem a member or two who are report happy? I'm just curious if there is a trend there.

Threads and thread starters, and non problem users should not be punished by thread removal for certain users issues.

Also of concern, are any of the reporters also participants in what are deemed "overly agressive arguments" for lack of a better word?






Are we asking for too many answers and upsetting Cliff, or is Cliff simply not taking the train again and said his peace (piece)? He's a repeat offender as we all know.
Jake_Dragon FEB 22, 06:28 PM
Rickady88GT FEB 22, 06:39 PM

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Originally posted by Jake_Dragon:




Cool.
I tried to make a new thread but didn't work
Jake_Dragon FEB 22, 06:51 PM

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Originally posted by Rickady88GT:


Cool.
I tried to make a new thread but didn't work



Pretty sure Cliff is still working on it.
Back to toad licking fun...
sourmash FEB 22, 06:51 PM

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Originally posted by 2.5:


In my opinion it has always been about how one speaks their opinion, and more specifically how one interacts with others.




I'm talking about THIS thread. Not to each other.
Fats FEB 22, 07:09 PM
First, It's Cliffs house. I've loved being here for years, many years. I've made a lot of friends, I've met many awesome people because of this place, because of Cliff. I've considered this place home since I first joined as TwoFatGuys way back when. I was a kid then, I'm old now. I grew older (probably not wiser) with a lot of you guys. I've posted my share of stupid things, I've shared my life with this group. I've made lifelong, and very close friends with people I would have never known from around the world.

Since nearly the beginning I hung around O/T. I like the random nature of it all. But it's been whittled away over the years, and at times seemed to be waiting for someone to notice it had died. As I said before, I think it's because things got sorted into other forums. The car projects went away to some far away place and I think we all noticed the drop in posts when that happened. I think a lot of us looked forward to all the random car projects people had going on. We're all car guys after all. But I couldn't tell you what's happening in that area now. Looking there, the last post was 10 days ago. Now Politics and Religion are far away. How many things are there (realistically) to talk about here. The page relies on traffic to stay alive, and traffic keeps getting cut.

I'm not leaving, but I'm probably going to seek out something else for regular visits. I don't want just Politics, I don't want just "I need help with _______", I don't want just jokes, I want all the random whatever that it used to be here.

Like I said, it's all Cliffs choice, and he wants us to only talk about certain things in certain areas. I don't think most of us click from page to page, just as most people don't go beyond page 1 on Google searches. I see this change as an end to the Forum as a whole. I know it's a "Fiero" Forum, the last post on the main "Fiero" page was three hours ago, and prior to that was over 12 hours ago. (At this posting) I think all the dividing of things is a mistake, but I'm not a guy that runs the worlds largest Fiero Forum. I know that there are a lot of people, most of them, that are a LOT smarter than I am on these things.

Brad