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Rickady88GT
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JAN 17, 12:28 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by ray b:
fats
I react to untruth when people claim like some do repeatedly that the 1-6-21 was tourists looking around
and not a revolt/putsch/rebellion and not a direct threat to our system of government
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The mostly peaceful trespassers were practically escorted around and given a guided tour of the place. There is video evidence of it.
It is also true that there was no "direct" threat or any indirect threat "revolt/putsch/rebellion against the system of government. They were protesting voter fraud, NOT the Government. Your anger is misguided, much like the trespassers[This message has been edited by Rickady88GT (edited 01-17-2022).]
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randye
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JAN 17, 07:58 PM
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rinselberg
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JAN 18, 12:32 AM
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Is there any difference between what Ray Epps was saying, and what President Trump said, in front of the White House at the Stop The Steal rally on January 6?
In (some) contrast to Ray Epps, Trump didn't say (explicitly) that anyone should go "into" the Capitol Building. He did say we're going to walk from here. at the White House, to the Capitol Building. He said that he would be with the people as they walked to the Capitol Building--which he wasn't. He said the word "fight"--a lot. He told the people that they had to "fight like hell" if they were going to have a country. Or some such words. "Fight like hell"...I don't think I have to look at a transcript to confirm that.
And then he told them to be "peaceful." As a way to cover his ass. "Incitement to violence? What you talkin' 'bout? I said 'be peaceful.' Hey, I dindu nuffin."
But all that--that's just prologue. Here's the gist of this message:
"FACT FOCUS: Federal agents didn’t orchestrate Jan. 6"
Unless you consider the former President a "federal agent."
"FACT FOCUS: Federal agents didn’t orchestrate Jan. 6"
Ali Swenson for AP Fact Check; January 11, 2022.
https://apnews.com/article/...f88bb0b10a45115a1bc6
Here's how this baby starts:
| quote | The House committee investigating the Jan. 6 insurrection poked another hole in the pro-Trump conspiracy theory that federal agents orchestrated the attack, confirming on Tuesday that a man at the center of the claims said he’d never been an FBI informant.
Ray Epps, an Arizona man who was filmed encouraging others to enter the U.S. Capitol, testified that he wasn’t “employed by, working with, or acting at the direction of any law enforcement agency on Jan. 5th or 6th or at any other time,” the committee tweeted on Tuesday.
The committee issued its statement after numerous Republican lawmakers highlighted the fringe theory in recent weeks, including Texas Sen. Ted Cruz in a Senate Judiciary Committee hearing on Tuesday. Pressed by Cruz, a Justice Department official said she couldn’t say whether FBI agents participated in the insurrection because she couldn’t discuss “the specifics of sources and methods” of the FBI.
Meanwhile, the evidence indicates the mob that invaded the Capitol on Jan. 6 was overwhelmingly made up of Trump supporters who wanted to help the then-president.
Here’s a closer look at the facts:
CLAIM: Ray Epps, who was filmed on Jan. 5 and 6 urging rioters toward the U.S. Capitol, is a federal agent who helped to orchestrate the insurrection.
THE FACTS: There’s no evidence to support that Epps — who has not been arrested or charged in connection with the Jan. 6 riot — was anything but a disgruntled supporter of former President Donald Trump, like thousands of others who descended on the Capitol that day.
The Jan. 6 committee says Epps testified that he wasn’t working for law enforcement, and at this point, no convincing evidence has been provided linking him to federal agents. |
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That's about 40 percent of the complete report. Use the link I just provided if you want the other 60 percent that follows.
I've had my fun.[This message has been edited by rinselberg (edited 01-18-2022).]
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ray b
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JAN 18, 09:45 AM
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| quote | Originally posted by Rickady88GT:
The mostly peaceful trespassers were practically escorted around and given a guided tour of the place. There is video evidence of it.
It is also true that there was no "direct" threat or any indirect threat "revolt/putsch/rebellion against the system of government. They were protesting voter fraud, NOT the Government. Your anger is misguided, much like the trespassers
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which fraud 2000 when gore won by 500k national but lost 5v4 in court
2016 when she who the right hates won by millions but where some voters lived made them more important then other voters votes
2020 when not even the nuttiest of the con's will claim an out right more votes win as they know 7 million is far too much
despite that they still believe and repeat of 2016 is their god given right where they get just the minimum number needed in the right places to squeak out a cheep cheat repeat of the 2016 farce
and yes that is a revolt by revolting people trying to subvert our government in a putsch------------------
Question wonder and be wierd
are you kind?
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olejoedad
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JAN 18, 02:13 PM
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If nothing else, rayb, you make for some interesting reading......as in, what the heck does he mean....
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2.5
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JAN 18, 02:17 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by randye:
The thing about Leftist propaganda is that, like common liars, it invariably contradicts and indicts itself.
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This does seem to be true, each time one can only hope that too much damage isn't done before that happens, and that the onlookers aren't too brainwashed or bought and paid for to see it when it happens.[This message has been edited by 2.5 (edited 01-18-2022).]
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sourmash
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JAN 18, 02:24 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by ray b:
which fraud 2000 when gore won by 500k national but lost 5v4 in court |
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Translation: I don't like our legally crafted system.
| quote | | 2016 when she who the right hates won by millions but where some voters lived made them more important then other voters votes |
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Translation: I don't like our legally crafted system.
| quote | 2020 when not even the nuttiest of the con's will claim an out right more votes win as they know 7 million is far too much
despite that they still believe and repeat of 2016 is their god given right where they get just the minimum number needed in the right places to squeak out a cheep cheat repeat of the 2016 farce |
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Translation: [word salad; undiscernable]
| quote | | and yes that is a revolt by revolting people trying to subvert our government in a putsch |
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Translation: [name calling and personal insults]
The synopsis is a lot of crying, and crying is allowed in politics by establishment left wingers.
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randye
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JAN 18, 06:36 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by 2.5:
This does seem to be true, each time one can only hope that too much damage isn't done before that happens, and that the onlookers aren't too brainwashed or bought and paid for to see it when it happens.
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It has been my observation over many years that Leftists don't care at all when their propaganda narratives get whacked by the truth.
They just immediately pop back up with their next lie.
It's literally like playing Whack-A-Mole
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Rickady88GT
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JAN 18, 06:36 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by ray b:
which fraud 2000 when gore won by 500k national but lost 5v4 in court
2016 when she who the right hates won by millions but where some voters lived made them more important then other voters votes
2020 when not even the nuttiest of the con's will claim an out right more votes win as they know 7 million is far too much
despite that they still believe and repeat of 2016 is their god given right where they get just the minimum number needed in the right places to squeak out a cheep cheat repeat of the 2016 farce
and yes that is a revolt by revolting people trying to subvert our government in a putsch
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Ray, your misdirections and insults are futile. The thread title clearly sets the topic and context. The mostly peaceful events that day Jan6 led to a trespassing and a guided tour of the Capital. The peaceful protest against voter fraud on Jan6 culminated in the capital punishment of a mostly peaceful trespasser by a Capital Police Officer which was the only death that day. It has been clearly demonstrated that an FBI agent instigated the peaceful protesters into trespassing on to Capital grounds, probably because he didn't like the fact that the protesters were not violent so he agitated them, instigated them into trespassing. The peaceful protesters came unarmed because they had no intention of taking over the Government or hurting anyone. The peaceful protest against voter fraud was tainted by hate from antifa and FBI who clearly have nefarious political motives, and had orchestrated, devolved the peaceful protest into a mostly peaceful trespassing.[This message has been edited by Rickady88GT (edited 01-18-2022).]
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sourmash
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JAN 18, 06:47 PM
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Sandy Cortez said they came to rape her.
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