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blackrams
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OCT 12, 12:36 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by Boondawg:
I don’t get it.
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maryjane is correct IMHO. President Trump could have and should have listened to the "experts" and gone a different course in the way he handled this Pandemic.
Having said that, he's done more to keep his campaign promises than any President I can recall. Even when faced with all the crap the Dems have thrown up as obstacles.
I don't expect bleeding heart Liberals to ever get it. If that is applicable to you, it is, what it is.
DJT getting elected the first time (IMHO) is directly related to who he was running against. HRC was either hated or loved.
I won't be surprised if Biden wins due to the same reasoning but, DJT will get my vote also.
Draining the swamp is a nasty undertaking and during that process, DJT got bit several times and stepped into several piles of crap. Most of those were provided by Dems.
Although I do have several Democrats who I call friend, I can't think of a single Democrat Party leader I would allow in my home. I don't need to stink up the place.
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Boondawg
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OCT 12, 01:04 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by blackrams:
Draining the swamp is a nasty undertaking and during that process, DJT got bit several times and stepped into several piles of crap.
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He brought in more criminals then he took out.
The list is readily available.
P.S. Recognizing a sociopathic douche bag doesn’t require one to be a “bleeding-heart liberal”.
It simply requires a working brain.
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maryjane
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OCT 12, 01:37 PM
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| quote | For the love of God, why?
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It's kind of like the cow bizness.
What you have may be far from perfect but the replacement heifers are always an absolute unknown but newbies are ALWAYS a PITA. Known problems vs unknown problems.
(same reason I desperately hold on to my current wife too)
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Boondawg
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OCT 12, 01:39 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by maryjane:
It's kind of like the cow bizness.
What you have may be far from perfect but the replacement heifers are always an absolute unknown but newbies are ALWAYS a PITA. Known problems vs unknown problems.
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Fair enough.
At least it’s honest.
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blackrams
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OCT 12, 01:41 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by Boondawg:
It simply requires a working brain.
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Agreed.
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OCT 13, 01:04 AM
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"We've got a really big 'shoe' for you tonight..."
Not really. Just the more or less standard fare from the Human Internet Page Link. (That would be me.)
It's two new mini-reports or Research Letters in the Journal of the American Medical Association (JAMA) Online, described in an NBC News wrapper (but not a rapper) for the general audience. "Let's get to it."
I think these could be of some interest to the forum members who have debated and messaged at length about Covid-related statistics and counting methods.
"The Covid-19 pandemic has claimed far more lives than reported, study says"
| quote | | On top of that, the U.S. has fared much worse than most high-income countries, a separate study found. |
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| quote | | Far more Americans have died as a result of the Covid-19 pandemic than have been counted and reported, according to new research published Monday in the Journal of the American Medical Association. |
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Is he just crying "Woolf"..?
| quote | "For every two Americans that we know of who are dying of Covid-19, another American is dying," said Dr. Steven Woolf, author of the new research and director emeritus of the Center on Society and Health at Virginia Commonwealth University.
Woolf's study looked at death statistics from the National Center for Health Statistics, which is part of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, as well as the Census Bureau. |
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Erika Edwards for NBC News; October 12, 2020.
https://www.nbcnews.com/hea...orted-study-n1242970
The NBC News report is about two new Research Letters in JAMA Online.
"Excess Deaths From COVID-19 and Other Causes, March-July 2020"
Woolf SH, Chapman DA, Sabo RT, Weinberger DM, Hill L, Taylor DDH; JAMA Online; October 12, 2020.
https://jamanetwork.com/jou.../fullarticle/2771761
"COVID-19 and Excess All-Cause Mortality in the US and 18 Comparison Countries"
Bilinski A, Emanuel EJ; JAMA Online; October 12, 2020.
https://jamanetwork.com/jou.../fullarticle/2771841
Each of the Research Letters starts with a summary paragraph or "Abstract."
Which reminds me of when I was in Africa. I read a letter in my JAMAs. How it got into my JAMAs, I'll never know.
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blackrams
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OCT 13, 07:08 AM
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Learned last evening that WHO is now saying Lock Downs are not the answer to controlling this Pandemic.
Alrighty, tell me again who the experts on this are? Talk about a 180 degree turn around......................... 
Rams
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maryjane
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OCT 13, 07:20 AM
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| quote | Originally posted by blackrams:
Learned last evening that WHO is now saying Lock Downs are not the answer to controlling this Pandemic.
Alrighty, tell me again who the experts on this are? Talk about a 180 degree turn around.........................
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From where did you learn that?
linky..or did it come from other worldly sources?
(I suspect WHO said lockdowns weren't the ONLY answer to controlling the pandemic)[This message has been edited by maryjane (edited 10-13-2020).]
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blackrams
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OCT 13, 07:24 AM
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| quote | Originally posted by maryjane:
From where did you learn that?
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Was on the late news, will see if I can find a link.
One of several reports I found:
After supporting coronavirus lockdowns for months, the WHO just made the reversal of the year
https://bgr.com/2020/10/11/...ew-warning-covid-19/
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maryjane
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OCT 13, 08:24 AM
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Lockdowns are necessary when outbreaks or spikes in any geographical area suface. It stops the spreador movement of the virus and during lockdown, other means of control have to be implemented and strictly followed. Otherwise, you see a long, never ending series of peaks and valleys as the areas exit from lockdown, just as we've seen in many states here in America.
WHO has always first and foremost, advocated sanitation, distancing, masks and called for regional or local lockdowns only if the people within those areas aren't following the other protocols, and that is what has been happening in this country. People won't wear masks, won't avoid close proximity with others, go out into bars and other gathering places once the numbers drop a little and the thing takes right back off again. Who has been begging countries to develop and push masks and distancing instead of lockdowns, but 'certain' countries (and individual states in the US case) just won't do it.
At about 25 minutes, you will see(hear) what WHO really said.
Lockdowns come about because PEOPLE just won't follow the other protocols.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x8oH7cBxgwE
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