An American 2nd Amendment thread (Page 8/23)
Hudini OCT 20, 10:46 PM

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Originally posted by Blacktree:

The ATF is already backpedaling on their latest shenanigans. They decided to suspend the "cease and desist" order against Q Defense for 60 days.

Just like with bump-stocks, this is not about the gun parts. It's about the government over-stepping their authority. When they do stuff like this, they must be held accountable!



Speculation: They are hidin' with Biden, hoping for a dem victory so they can go back to their tyranny over legal gun owners.

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MidEngineManiac OCT 20, 11:44 PM

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Originally posted by Jake_Dragon:

Guns and Coffee what could go wrong



Trudeau tried to ban them on his latest gun list.....cant quite explain how coffee falls under a firearms rating...

Mind ya, I give zero ****s about TruDumbs opinions....now where is that dark roast ?
hnthomps OCT 21, 07:03 PM

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Originally posted by Jake_Dragon:

Guns and Coffee what could go wrong



I like this video a lot!

Nelson

2.5 OCT 29, 07:49 AM

"Perhaps not surprisingly, neither of the presidential debates took on the “gun issue,” and neither did the vice presidential debate. Biden’s campaign doesn’t want their candidate anywhere near that subject because it is one area where he could be destroyed, especially with millions of new gun owners over the past eight months and a rising tide of citizens who are licensed to carry.
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The question gun owners should be asking themselves is whether all of this negativism in the press is designed to discourage them from voting at all. By making it seem the election is already lost, will traditionally lethargic gun owners use this as yet another excuse to sit at home and let an election be decided without their participation?

On Nov. 3, the future of the nation and the fate of the Second Amendment as gun owners know it will be decided."
https://www.ammoland.com/20...383899#axzz6cDLOaP8P
sourmash OCT 29, 10:01 AM
It's my opinion that all freedoms in the world today only exist because of the American and European middle class. And when the American and European middle class erode a little more the US 2nd ammendment will disappear, then the 1st. Europe has no 1st and 2nd, so it's really just us preventing a new feudalism.

It's almost done. When the middle class is weakened a little more global tyranny will have full control.
2.5 NOV 02, 10:50 AM

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Originally posted by sourmash:

It's my opinion that all freedoms in the world today only exist because of the American and European middle class. And when the American and European middle class erode a little more the US 2nd ammendment will disappear, then the 1st. Europe has no 1st and 2nd, so it's really just us preventing a new feudalism.

It's almost done. When the middle class is weakened a little more global tyranny will have full control.



I'm with you its getting closer every day. Id say many of them are in what we may see or define as the "middle class" or "working class". I would specify to say its anyone in any class whom believes in personal freedom, personal responsibility, right and wrong, and absolute truth. How many folks do you know who truly believe this , and live their lives showing evidence that they believe this.
2.5 NOV 05, 10:00 AM
At 2:38 the video gets into the control plans, after he talks about the video being taken down due to censorship.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fKVW47m_PHw

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Boondawg NOV 05, 12:20 PM

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Originally posted by 2.5:


...personal freedom, personal responsibility, right and wrong, and absolute truth...



Unfortunately, no one can agree on exactly what those things are.

I have been harshly criticized here for smoking weed, which encompasses all those things.

So yeah, it’s a great set of character traits to claim when you don’t actually have to support it in others...
2.5 NOV 05, 02:14 PM

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Originally posted by Boondawg:


Unfortunately, no one can agree on exactly what those things are.

... smoking weed, which encompasses all those things.

So yeah, it’s a great set of character traits to claim when you don’t actually have to support it in others...



Getting high is interesting to try to apply, how would you say it works with personal responsibility? Wouldnt that mean we would need to eliminate rehab? Wouldn't it involve opening the door to an enormous amount of privacy loss to make sure the user wasn't abusing the healthcare system, abusing welfare, neglecting their kids, etc? Upon first fail of these things what would be the punishment?
When people have brought up getting high as a personal freedom (which is the one I can easily see relevance to) in the past I have said: sure personal, so if you were on an island alone, supporting yourself, harming no one, and when you OD no one comes...

Relating it to the thread, did you note in the last vid I posted he said if you use MJ you'd loose your right to own a firearm, no matter what your state thinks?

Relating it again to firearms, if its a no-no to get high, that doesn't in and of itself deprive you of your right to defend yourself, (an inalienable right) but taking away firearms does.

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LitebulbwithaFiero NOV 06, 04:45 PM
https://m.imgur.com/gallery/TO8BGgw