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cliffw
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NOV 23, 12:29 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by cliffw:
I would say impeachment proceedings begin when Articles of Impeachment are drawn up. |
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I know it seems like I am belaboring the terminology but when words get accepted, they seem to become fact. Such as Climate Change.
Last Sunday, Nancy Pelosi did an interview on "Face The Nation" (youtube video). At the four minute mark she says ... "there has not even been made a decision to impeach the President". The reporter then says, at the 4:15 mark that ... "correct, there has not been made a decision to proceed ...".
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| quote | Originally posted by rinselberg:
Picking up from my previous message in this discussion...
"MPs demand Zelensky, Trump investigate suspicion of U.S.-Ukraine corruption involving $7.4 bln"
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7.4B ? Wow ! Was that a tease, or do you plan on getting back to us with details ?
Thinking about it ... why would they demand Trump investigate their bank ? Of less of course you mean the 1.8B dollars Nobama grifted to Privatbank, which disappeared.
Did Biden Save This Ukraine Firm Responsible for $1.8B in Missing Aid? His Son is on the Board of …
There are many tidbits in this article.
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On April 16, 2014, Biden met with Devon Archer, a former star fundraiser for John Kerry’s 2004 presidential run and business partner in Rosemont Capital with Biden’s son Hunter. (Federal agents would later arrest Archer in May 2016 for defrauding a Native American tribe.)
Less than a week later (April 22) came an announcement that Archer had joined the board of Burisma, a secretive Ukrainian natural gas company. On May 13, Hunter Biden would also join the company’s board. |
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Jeeze, the Never Trumpers, they are standing up strong that their President did not support a flegding democracy. By not supplying money that they could use to buy Hell Fire missles. Yet forget that Nobama only provided "meals ready to eat" and blankets. Hell Fire missles ? Meh, baby food compared to the 2,000 Nuclear Weapons .
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In 1994, through an accident of fate, the newly independent country of Ukraine found itself in possession of the world’s third largest nuclear arsenal.
At first, Ukraine planned to keep its nuclear weapons. But, at the insistence of the two strongest powers in the world — Russia and the United States — Ukraine agreed to give up their nukes in exchange for perpetual guarantees of sovereignty and territorial integrity. |
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rinselberg
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NOV 23, 01:00 PM
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Picking up on that last remark, about Obama vs Trump, and Obama's resistance against the provision of battlefield weapons for the Ukraine, it would seem relevant to consider that Obama reached the end of his second term. What might Obama have decided if he were still in office, in response to changing conditions or the persistence of the conflict between the Ukraine and Russian-backed insurgents? What might Hillary Clinton have decided (about Ukraine,) if she had become POTUS..?
Not such a simple or obvious comparison.[This message has been edited by rinselberg (edited 11-23-2019).]
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rinselberg
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NOV 23, 01:08 PM
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Another part of that is Congress. How did the 2018 midterms and the flipping of the House of Representatives that has most recently had more Democrats than Republicans in the House tie in with the provision of this military assistance package for the Ukraine that is at or near the center of the "Impeachment-palooza"..? [This message has been edited by rinselberg (edited 11-23-2019).]
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Boondawg
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NOV 23, 01:16 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by cliffw:
By the way, your MNSBC girlfriend, Maya Wiley, sexted me naked pictures of her. I think she wants attention, so I will share them,  .
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How honorable do you find it for a man to criticize a woman’s looks, or apply derogatory nicknames to her?
How would you you like the women in your life to be treated by douchebag strangers?
Grow up.
You don’t have to like her, but I’m quite sure based on your age you were taught better than that when it comes to women.
How do you expect any of that you typed in RED to be taken seriously if you continually regress to 4th grade antics?
P.S. Almost every “talking point” you typed in red is complete horse-sh!t.
I mean, you know that, right?
It’s fairly easy to figure out.
I have yet to see you or others call out a single person from your side for even the simplest infraction.
Despite the fact that quite a few of Donald Trumps “All the best people” have quit or been accused, tried & convicted of crimes, with more to come, I’m sure.
No acknowledgement, no truth, just excuses & conspiracy theories.
“Drain The Swamp” indeed.
All he did was import his own menagerie of mudsuckers.
Which have mostly gone belly-up.
I can go on line and see a picture of the President of the United States wife’s tits, but I can’t see his tax returns.
Donald Trump is an egotistical charlatan.
He doesn’t care about you OR this country.
He cares about HIM.
He is a con-man.
And if you absolutely need your concern or outrage, it should be with how easily you were taken in.
I believe History will prove exactly that.[This message has been edited by Boondawg (edited 11-23-2019).]
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rinselberg
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NOV 23, 01:41 PM
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Kind of a messaging-palooza...
"Former CIA Director: We worried arming Ukraine would hand technology to Russian spies"
| quote | | Under Obama the military opposed giving Javelin missiles to Ukraine because of fear Russia would get access to sensitive tech[nology], said ex-CIA chief Brennan. |
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| quote | | In particular, said Brennan, now an NBC News analyst, the military was opposed to providing Javelin anti-tank missiles to the Ukrainians during the Obama administration "because of fear that the Russians would get access to Javelin's sensitive technology,"... |
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| quote | | "I believe it is appropriate that Ukrainian forces have Javelins now because of the work that has been done over the past five years to reduce Russian presence and influence, but giving Javelins to the Ukrainians earlier would have risked compromising a very important and sensitive weapon system that could have come back to haunt U.S. forces on the battlefield. |
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Ken Dilanian for NBC News; November 22, 2019.
https://www.nbcnews.com/pol...-technology-n1089926[This message has been edited by rinselberg (edited 11-23-2019).]
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rinselberg
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NOV 23, 02:53 PM
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It's a shame that the Impeachment-palooza is not benefiting from the excellence of top ranked real-time game analysts like Monday Night Football's Booger McFarland, but I will try to lend a hand. I recommend this online video content which looks at some of the testimony from Russia scholar Fiona Hill, who was part of the Trump Administration's National Security Council until her departure in July, just a week before the now "celebrated" telephone conversation between U.S. President Donald J Trump and Ukraine President Volodymyr Zelensky.
Opening segment from MSNBC's "The Last Word;" November 22, 2019.
Video content 13+ minutes
https://www.msnbc.com/the-l...theories-73939013995
This is my "director's cut," goes to YouTube and picks up the same on-air video segment at 4 minutes in, where I think it gets the most informative.
https://youtu.be/zHDI_m4Vnn0?t=259
I think it does a great job of defending against one of Team Trump's 'misdirection' plays, which is designed to draw the eyes of the defenders towards a fake Ukraine interference with the 2016 U.S. national elections, and open up a lane on the other side of the field for Trump to gain rushing yards behind the blocking fullback from Russia, Vladimir Putin.[This message has been edited by rinselberg (edited 11-23-2019).]
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randye
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NOV 23, 04:31 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by Boondawg:
I can go on line and see a picture of the President of the United States wife’s tits, but I can’t see his tax returns.
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| quote | Originally posted by Boondawg:
How would you you like the women in your life to be treated by douchebag strangers?
Grow up.
You don’t have to like her, but I’m quite sure based on your age you were taught better than that when it comes to women.
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| quote | Originally posted by Boondawg:
Maybe weed don’t make you stupid...maybe it’s the man.
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In your case it's both.
Maybe you should just stick with what your <8th grade mind knows best. Alcohol, drugs and handling old bowling shoes
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randye
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NOV 23, 05:07 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by rinselberg:
It's a shame that the Impeachment-palooza is not benefiting from the excellence of top ranked real-time game analysts like Monday Night Football's Booger McFarland,
Opening segment from MSNBC's "The Last Word;" November 22, 2019.
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While drooling Psychopath Ronald is obsessed with boogers and watching MSLSD 24/7, here is 41+ minutes of reality.
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Tony Kania
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NOV 23, 07:21 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by Boondawg:
How honorable do you find it for a man to criticize a woman’s looks, or apply derogatory nicknames to her?
How would you you like the women in your life to be treated by douchebag strangers?
Grow up.
You don’t have to like her, but I’m quite sure based on your age you were taught better than that when it comes to women.
How do you expect any of that you typed in RED to be taken seriously if you continually regress to 4th grade antics?
P.S. Almost every “talking point” you typed in red is complete horse-sh!t.
I mean, you know that, right?
It’s fairly easy to figure out.
I have yet to see you or others call out a single person from your side for even the simplest infraction.
Despite the fact that quite a few of Donald Trumps “All the best people” have quit or been accused, tried & convicted of crimes, with more to come, I’m sure.
No acknowledgement, no truth, just excuses & conspiracy theories.
“Drain The Swamp” indeed.
All he did was import his own menagerie of mudsuckers.
Which have mostly gone belly-up.
I can go on line and see a picture of the President of the United States wife’s tits, but I can’t see his tax returns.
Donald Trump is an egotistical charlatan.
He doesn’t care about you OR this country.
He cares about HIM.
He is a con-man.
And if you absolutely need your concern or outrage, it should be with how easily you were taken in. Click to show
I believe History will prove exactly that.
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From Donald Eugene Keech, the man who posted a picture of semen and ashes in regards to the Jewish peoples? Seriously,  ?
Then bring up 4th grade like the 8th grade dropout is able to even Trump a child? Bwahahaha!
Hey shoe boy, history has REPEATEDLY been on my side. You are still waiting for a win. Still waiting after all of these years. Still our President. Still you have someone else sign your checks. Still Googling Donald Eugene Keech (select images).
Tacos. Free tacos.[This message has been edited by Tony Kania (edited 11-23-2019).]
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cliffw
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NOV 24, 10:49 AM
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| quote | Originally posted by Boondawg:
How honorable do you find it for a man to criticize a woman’s looks, or apply derogatory nicknames to her? |
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For a man, or me ? For a man, I do find it honorable to apply his comedic observations, not worried about butt hurt feelings, nor being politically correct feministley correct.
For me ? My honor is intact.
| quote | Originally posted by Boondawg:
How would you you like the women in your life to be treated by douchebag strangers?
Grow up. |
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I would like them to have thicker nut sacks than you do. Grow up ! We are supposed to tell every woman that they are beautiful, no matter what we think.
I would expect them to be confident in themselves and as an adult, not every person will think as they do.
| quote | Originally posted by Boondawg:
You don’t have to like her, but I’m quite sure based on your age you were taught better than that when it comes to women. |
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As a woman,  ? How sexist of you.
| quote | Originally posted by Boondawg:
How do you expect any of that you typed in RED to be taken seriously if you continually regress to 4th grade antics? |
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We are about the same age. I don't expect nothing. I could have responded in pink flowery text and the truth would still not change. It is easy to whip a 4th graders' logic yet no one is trying ? At least I had the balls to take on threedog's ?2th grade? education.
Speaking of education, ... I am a high school drop out, can you refute anything I said ?
| quote | Originally posted by Boondawg:
P.S. Almost every “talking point” you typed in red is complete horse-sh!t.
I mean, you know that, right?
It’s fairly easy to figure out. |
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Put up or shut up.
| quote | Originally posted by Boondawg:
I have yet to see you or others call out a single person from your side for even the simplest infraction.
Despite the fact that quite a few of Donald Trumps “All the best people” have quit or been accused, tried & convicted of crimes, with more to come, I’m sure. |
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Ah yes, the 'ole double standard,  .
| quote | Originally posted by Boondawg:
I can go on line and see a picture of the President of the United States wife’s tits, but I can’t see his tax returns. |
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I don't need to go online and see Melania's tits. They are beautiful,  . I don't need to see your President's previous tax returns. , again with the double standard. The Nobama birth certificate ? His college transcripts ?
What did / are they doing today ?
| quote | Originally posted by Boondawg:
Husiegn Nobama is an egotistical charlatan.
He doesn’t care about you OR this country.
He cares about HIM.
He is a con-man. |
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| quote | Originally posted by Boondawg:
And if you absolutely need your concern or outrage, it should be with how easily you were taken in.
I believe History will prove exactly that.
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Taken in ?
Four more years !
Four more years !
Four more years !
Good night, goodbye.
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