quote Originally posted by randye: Also squawed about "no control group" without even noting or understanding what the study group was. Published data is absolutely wasted on people that lack the intellectual ability to evaluate it.

quote Originally posted by theBDub: Okay so what am I missing? They didn’t control for a population without the HCQ treatment, and they noted that Vitamin D seemed to be the largest differentiator in terms of severity and outcome. They note HCQ as safe and effective due to the meta-analysis of other studies, like I mentioned. So what did I not understand? They didn’t actually test HCQ for treatment, they tested a combination of drugs with vitamin C vs. that combination without vitamin C.

That you were having an online conversation with someone that does not merit even a single second of your time.

Actually, I think you did. You were being too kind. Or indulgent. Extending the courtesy of conversation to someone whose sole purpose is to use you as a kind of stage prop, while he churns out endless and endlessly petty, insulting and thoroughly asinine commentary about you, such as "[you] lack the intellectual ability bla bla bla . . ."

Carry on, though. I just want to provide some "in game analysis" for the viewing audience.

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quote Originally posted by theBDub: Okay so what am I missing?

Just about EVERYTHING....

.... but, as I pointed out, your lack of competence in this has been absolutely no barrier to your inflated self assessment that you know better than the authors, researchers and publishers of that medical study.... (See: Dunning - Kruger reference)

quote Originally posted by theBDub: There is no control group in the study. They have some figures shown from a meta-analysis, but without looking at each of those, I couldn’t claim the meta-analysis to have any value. Has this been peer-reviewed?

Since this is likely to be extremely tedious and also likely to be completely unproductive with you, let's start with what should be the simplest thing:

IF you had the competence to understand what you presumably read you would NOT have ridiculously asked "Has this been peer reviewed?"

1.) The header of the document clearly shows that the study was published by PMC, US National Library of Medicine, National Institutes of Health.
The NLM / NIH peer reviews all studies before they publish them.
In this instance it shows that NLM / NIH chose this study from PMC as they routinely do.




2.) PMC, (PubMed Central), also a part of NIH / NLM, receives medical publications and studies from all over the United States and the world. PubMed peer reviews the manuscripts they receive prior to them publishing them to the NLM




3.) The header of the document also clearly shows that PubMed / PMC received the study from Cureus which utilizes a "post publication peer review system" which the instant matter clearly survived and did so with sufficient credential to be selected and further reviewed by the aforementioned NLM / PMC






4.) And finally, the document also clearly shows that the study received review and approval by the following FIVE entities:



All told this particular study has been peer reviewed at least EIGHT TIMES...

Even a casual, lay, reader should have at least questioned where the study came from as evidenced by it's header, but you are completely oblivious and incurious.....

...and your clear incompetence with the subject matter at hand is then demonstrated with your question: Has this been peer-reviewed?


I'll leave you to go back again and try desperately to ferret out what the "control group" in that study is.

It's clearly there and it's as obvious as the peer review you aren't competent in this area to understand.

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OH, and as I said before:

Dr. Stella Immanuel is still a practicing, board certified, licensed, pediatric and emergency medicine physician in the state of Texas.

She has no actions taken against her by the Texas state licensing or medical ethics boards for any violations or complaints.

She reportedly still successfully treats her patients with SARS COV2 using a regimen that includes HCQ

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