Someone got the 2nd RNA shot. (Page 7/9)
sourmash APR 29, 10:28 PM
Bullchit. That's bs right there. It DID NOT go through the lengthy trials of normal "vaccines" of the past. Contrast it with the actual vaccines as you guys are suggesting it is as safe as and report back. You guys can take it if you choose. It is still in experimental phase.

Eff that.
rinselberg APR 29, 10:59 PM
A person can be among the first to take a newly developed vaccine, or they can be among the first to suffer the consequences of falling victim to a newly emerging disease. Consequences that can be serious and long term, if not fatal.

If new vaccines are ever going to be developed and tested using a significantly streamlined and speedier process, and taking advantage of new or newer vaccine technologies or "platforms" that allow that, there has to be a first time.

"I'm not going to buy one of those new-fangled Model T's. They rush 'em through on some kind of assembly line."
rinselberg APR 29, 11:15 PM
It's been almost two weeks since I received the second of the two (standard) Moderna "messenger RNA" vaccine injections.

I had not much of a reaction to the first shot. Slight sensitivity around the injection site for a day or two. Seemed kind of lethargic (extra lethargic) the next day and feeling like I might be on the cusp of a sore throat--but a sore throat that did not happen.

Even less of a reaction to the second shot. Very slight and short-lived sensitivity around the injection site, and that was it.

I know someone who says the same about the two Pfizer (similar kind of) vaccine injections.

I've never had an adverse reaction of any consequence to a vaccine injection or to any other kind of medication, of the ones that I have taken in my life. Not an unusually large number of medications, or an unusually wide variety of medications. About average, I'd say. Maybe a little less than average for someone in my demographic, in this country.
sourmash APR 30, 04:34 AM
And Bill Gates' wealth hasn't gone to the stratosphere in a year.

They can't even isolate the virus, but are saying there may be a 3rd shot necessary and maybe yearly. Yeah, that sounds just like every other vaccine being compared here.

If you aren't 70 and over with other health issues you have almost no risk.

They're giving free Sheep-ade down at the Convention Center. Better get in line. You still have to social distance and wear a mask afterwards, you know, just like every other vaccine.
2.5 APR 30, 10:05 AM

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Originally posted by Hudini:

My point was simply that, as MJ wrote, we have a long history with vaccines. We know how they work. This virus may be a new strain, but it's a still a virus. And we know how viruses work and we know how vaccines work. All this BS in the media is to make clickbait to get your eyes on their news channel.

Bottom line: you decide what's best for you. But vaccines work and have been proven time and time again. I still don't understand how people think this time is any different.



I understand your point but I was replying to specific things you said, if you would like you can share sources, it may help give people another picture.
rinselberg APR 30, 10:39 AM

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Originally posted by sourmash:

And Bill Gates' wealth hasn't gone to the stratosphere in a year.

They can't even isolate the virus, but are saying there may be a 3rd shot necessary and maybe yearly. Yeah, that sounds just like every other vaccine being compared here.

If you aren't 70 and over with other health issues you have almost no risk.

They're giving free Sheep-ade down at the Convention Center. Better get in line. You still have to social distance and wear a mask afterwards, you know, just like every other vaccine.


The original or "wild" strain of the Covid virus was isolated in 1Q 2020. Isolated, and its genome--the complete sequence of amino acids that are strung together and comprise its RNA--completely sequenced. The sequence was given to the world by researchers in China.

I don't think that "gene therapy" is accurate terminology for the mRNA Covid vaccines (Pfizer and Moderna) but what if it were? The vaccines do not change the DNA in any of the cells of a person's body. Ranchers and farmers have used mRNA vaccines for livestock for years prior to 2020. If it weren't for that, I doubt that they could have had the first mRNA vaccines for Covid ready for widespread use in less than a year's time after isolating and sequencing the virus.

This guy said the other day that Americans may have the option of a nasal spray instead of an injection for a Covid "booster."

Say "hello" to "Vin."
sourmash APR 30, 11:16 AM
If it had to be fast tracked through emergency means instead of normal trials then it is NOT the same as historically verified vaccines as was claimed. And nothing in your post has proved the original statement...because it can't. Stop wasting time with tangential discussion.

Yeah, I know about ranchers injecting animals with such. I'm also aware the animals shed proteins afterwards too.

So, it isnt like all the other actual vaccines we're administering as a regimen as was stated l, and your post supports that. It cannot be said it is as safe or that we know the same/similar amount of side effects, adverse effects at this early stage. We'll know in 10 years. In twenty years.
rinselberg APR 30, 01:26 PM


I'm loathe to impersonate "Captain Obvious" but the D614G mutation has been observed in vitro to stabilize the ACE receptor-philic Spike protein, which most likely increases the transmissibility of symptomatic and asymptomatic infections.

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sourmash APR 30, 01:57 PM
The emergency fast track to bypass normal
testing protocols is exactly the same as all the decades of recorded results of the rest of vaccines. In fact, so much so that you still have to wear face diapers and practice social distancing. And you can still contract it. Because the "vaccine" is just like all the others. Gace masks. Social distancing.
rinselberg APR 30, 02:19 PM
What do you think of the latest advice from the CDC, that recognizes the much lower potential for infection (if you've been vaccinated) in outdoor settings?

"Fully Vaccinated vs. Not: A Simple Look at What New CDC Mask Guidance Means for You"
NBC 4 New York; April 27, 2021.
https://www.nbcnewyork.com/...ans-for-you/3022342/

Starts with a video. Has outdoors and indoors Mask Guidance charts from the CDC.

The first two images can be enlarged using "open in new window" or "open in new tab."

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