Is O/T over? (Page 7/8)
skywurz MAR 09, 08:58 PM

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Originally posted by randye:


Who are you or the government to decide what is "more money than you and your children's children could possibly need" ?

How much money is that exactly?

Are you going to tell us all about "The 1%" ?

Do you understand that even if you magically got rid of "the 1%" there is always the next "1%"....and then the next....and then the next.....

Do you understand that is called "A zero sum game" ?

Do you understand that Marxism / Socialism thrives on basic envy and resentment and that there is never an end to it ?

Do you understand that "caring because it seems like they are hurting people" is actually your feelings dictating your ideas on fiscal policy, something that is always best decided dispassionately, rationally and methodically ?

Who is the "they" that "are hurting people" ? How are they "hurt" ? Do you see your world as "victims and oppressors" ?

Do you know that envy and resentment along with the idea of the world as "victims and oppressors" is a basic tenet of Marxism ?

Do you know why?




Thanks these are great points to reflect upon and research. Also have to read up on the difference between Marxism and Socialism.

I've known I lean more socialist . But mostly for basic needs like Education, Health Care, infrastructure for clean water and power... No others are springing to mind at the moment.

The problem always seems to be how to get funding for these things. We can't stop blowing things up so we would need more taxes. Well nobody wants that. Next obvious choice is to attack the rich. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
randye MAR 09, 09:09 PM

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Originally posted by skywurz:


Thanks these are great points to reflect upon and research. Also have to read up on the difference between Marxism and Socialism.





Allow me to help you with that:

Socialism has it's 20th century roots firmly in Marxist ideology.



If you honestly don't know who Vladimir Lenin was then:

1. It is a demonstration of how poorly you were educated and how that has disserved you thus far in life.

and

2. It is something else for you to educate yourself about.

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sourmash MAR 09, 09:35 PM
The conservatives you state as having dug their heels in so stoutly don't compare to how the burn, loot, murder hoards of BLM and Antifa have dug theirs in. When you see it happen, it will be a civil war.

The establishment supports BLM and Antifa and govt is prosecuting those who defend themselves against their terrorists.
skywurz MAR 09, 10:26 PM

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Originally posted by sourmash:

The conservatives you state as having dug their heels in so stoutly don't compare to how the burn, loot, murder hoards of BLM and Antifa have dug theirs in. When you see it happen, it will be a civil war.

The establishment supports BLM and Antifa and govt is prosecuting those who defend themselves against their terrorists.



You probably aren't wrong. Lots of people have nothing to lose. They are all dug in on their stances. eventually something will have to give. However its going to go to the side The Guard, Military, Air Force and Navy are loyal to. If their loyalty is split then things will get really interesting.
randye MAR 10, 12:23 AM

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Originally posted by skywurz:


You probably aren't wrong. Lots of people have nothing to lose. They are all dug in on their stances. eventually something will have to give. However its going to go to the side The Guard, Military, Air Force and Navy are loyal to. If their loyalty is split then things will get really interesting.



All.....let me repeat that,... ALL.... of the United States military is now a volunteer force.

What ideology do you suppose the vast majority of those volunteers adhere to ?

My military service is almost 40 years behind me now but, like all other volunteers then and now, I took an oath to support, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States.

I took that oath as literally as I take the wording of our Constitution.

I would also remind you that there are millions of veterans in this country, similarly disposed, ranging from "old geezers" like myself to recently separated younger ones.

Only the dead "have nothing to lose".

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sourmash MAR 10, 09:05 AM

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Originally posted by skywurz:
You probably aren't wrong. Lots of people have nothing to lose. They are all dug in on their stances. eventually something will have to give. However its going to go to the side The Guard, Military, Air Force and Navy are loyal to. If their loyalty is split then things will get really interesting.



The mega rich are using leftist goons. The leftists work for the establishment. The major road block to a one world takeover is individual rights to speech, firearms that can resist tyranny and freedom of assembly. America is alone in having them and is being purged of those rights. The leftist brats are the shock troops. The White middle class is the major obstacle standing in the way, which is why they're being targeted for displacement.

Under Trump White people defending themselves against these criminals were prosecuted so he obviously was powerless and the power is above President. The federal troops are on the side of the low lifes.

Those low lifes are responsible for their station in life. Some were raised medicated by parents and can't discontinue drug abuse into adulthood. Two of the 3 that Kyle Rittenhouse shot have Jewish surnames. One of them was a child molester. The guy who lived is a convicted felon in possession of a gun. Last I read he was not charged. The "officials" have chosen to form as a goon squad.

Those low lifes haven't lost anything. They are criminals or have mental disorders or for any reason hate normal because it casts a shadow on them. It tells them they have to support themselves and they're too spoiled for that. They don't offer anything positive. Only disfunctiin, destruction, suffering while they eliminate the middle class for the mega rich to consolidate wealth and power.
rinselberg MAR 10, 09:47 AM

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Originally posted by sourmash:
Two of the 3 that Kyle Rittenhouse shot have Jewish surnames.


Does that qualify as a pre-existing condition?
sourmash MAR 10, 10:05 AM
That's a poignant question. They're what, a tiny minority at 2% of the population? What are the odds that 2 of them got shot while rioting and attacking 1 person? It's not something a person would even imagine up.
2.5 MAR 10, 12:13 PM

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Originally posted by skywurz:

The real problem is that this side of the forum leans a bit harder Right than i care for. Its not you its me, I don't care to try to argue with people about politics or push my beliefs onto them so I steer clear. Im also not Left either i dont care for a bunch of that. This is where the 2 party system has failed me and its just a huge shrug.



Somewhat understandable. Though like anywhere else online, or even in real life. You can still stick around and enjoy the good parts, just dont participate in annoying parts

I see conversations as just that, not pushing ideas on someone. I mean these are just online threads, a viewer always chooses to look, read, and respond.
cliffw MAR 14, 07:37 AM

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Originally posted by ls3mach:
Is O/T over?

I don't check the other areas. Is PFF dying? Traffic seems lite and noticeably more tension.



There are thirteen threads on the first page with flames (30 plus replies).

Start a topic, generate conversation, and we will live on, .