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maryjane
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JAN 19, 05:05 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by blackrams:
I'm not qualified to suggest that all pipe lines are modernized to the point Don was saying, I would think it would take time, money, equipment and some folks smarter than me to get this done on older pipe lines but, I would have to defer to those that know.
What I would ask is how you know this is a pipe line aircraft?
I know several VFR pilots that follow roads, rail road tracks, major electrical lines and even pipe lines to get to or near destinations. These are pilots that never learned terrain navigation.  I'm not saying you're wrong but am questioning whether or not you're sure and if so, how?
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On older and shorter legacy pipelines, I'm sure they still are being overflown or monitored via high definition satellite, or even by vehicle but that is an extremely poor, expensive, and in-efficient way to get the job done and gives very little early indication of leakage in underground lines. Running pipeline pigs with robotic sensing aren't much better.
How do they make older ones safer?
Legacy pipelines get a thorough inspection internally, potential trouble spots identified are exposed by excavation and if corrosion is indicated, an in-situ internal sleeve is installed, either a hard sleeve or a robotically 'deposited' lining.
Modern technology has radically changed how the pipeline industry does things.
https://arpa-e.energy.gov/s...scriptions_FINAL.pdf
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fierosound
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JAN 19, 05:06 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by cvxjet:
I like the idea of using pipelines for oil transportation, but I hate Eminent domain and just giving the OIL industry whatever it wants..... |
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MSM certainly makes it sound like the world will be saved by blocking this one oil pipeline.
They totally ignored the fact that the equivalent of 10 Keystone pipelines were built during the environmental Obama years.
https://financialpost.com/c...no-one-said-anything
More have been built between 2015 and now without opposition, and once again Biden will "save the world" by blocking just this one. 
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cvxjet
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JAN 19, 06:53 PM
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I am not worried about the "Save the world" part of it....I am more worried about the Safety, and the ED problem. The Oil industry has become more and more like Mafia thugs the way they try to get whatever they want; Of course, ED, but also the Oklahoma Fracking quakes and the State legislature banning local governments from being able to have a say in fracking in their area.
Also, I think a push for solar technology could lead to much more efficient solar panels...and a push for battery storage devices could lead to better batteries...
The US used to lead in technology development because of all the crazy ideas that mixed together, but now both (All sides) just yell and scream.......D.U.M.B.
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Patrick
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JAN 19, 07:32 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by cvxjet:
I am not worried about the "Save the world" part of it....
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Well, whether you're worried about it or not, environmental concerns certainly play a part in developing any energy resource in this day and age.
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maryjane
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JAN 19, 07:48 PM
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They have it all.... we should all, be just like them.
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cvxjet
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JAN 19, 08:00 PM
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Well...I am dying from Lupus induced by the prescription drug Omeprazole...Maybe 4-6 years and I'll be toast....and I have no children. So I'm not really worried about what happens to the Earth.......It will shrug and the human race will be gone, just like the dinosaurs (Although they didn't cause their own die-off)...
Something new will come along in a billion years after the Earth has stabilized again.
The Oil industry has been very resourceful in buying up failed scientists to cast doubt on anthropogenic Climate change......They have been able to keep their profits at a very high rate and obviously don't care about future generations......A friend of mine was laughing at how the "City dwellers" were crying about sea-level rise "They deserve what they get- stupid liberals!" but when I pointed out the big problem would be un-predictable weather causing starvation he was somewhat surprised; "You mean crop failures would be common enough to lead to starvation in the US?" "Yep-r-do!"
I think he still believes that "God gave us the Earth to exploit! He wouldn't allow us to wreck it!" (To which I reply, "God helps those that help themselves" and "If god is going to help you that much, then go jump off a cliff and pray he saves you on the way down!" (Never met anyone who would give that a try......
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williegoat
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JAN 19, 08:02 PM
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Do you have a twin brother in Boston?
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sourmash
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JAN 19, 10:20 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by blackrams:
What I would ask is how you know this is a pipe line aircraft?
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It flies WAY lower than all other small planes, it always follows the pipeline markers in the ground and the wings read PIPELINE something so people on the ground might figure out he isn't crashing. Saw it last week.
The power provider used helicopters last I saw for transmission lines.
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Wichita
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JAN 19, 11:18 PM
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Looks like Canada's Black Face Trudeau is concerned about the pipeline and is in touch with Biden to hopefully prevent the retreads from stopping the Keystone XL Pipeline.
https://www.usnews.com/news...n-about-oil-pipeline
I guess Canada is going to have to find Hunter a board seat. 
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blackrams
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JAN 20, 05:27 AM
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| quote | Originally posted by Wichita:
Looks like Canada's Black Face Trudeau is concerned about the pipeline and is in touch with Biden to hopefully prevent the retreads from stopping the Keystone XL Pipeline.
https://www.usnews.com/news...n-about-oil-pipeline
I guess Canada is going to have to find Hunter a board seat.
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I really doubt Canada is going to change Biden's mind, their oil isn't really needed at this time.
Though, I do firmly support their efforts, I'd rather us use their oil so we don't have to our oil.. I don't believe the price difference is significant.
Feel free to correct me if I am incorrect on that.
Rams
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