The narrative that the Capitol protest was a “deadly insurrection” is falling apart (Page 63/110)
Rickady88GT AUG 26, 12:12 AM


As of today, NOBODY has been charged with Insurrection or sedition or even homicide as a result of the MOSTLY PEACEFUL events of January 6, 2021

As of today, NOBODY has been charged with Advocating overthrow of Government (18 U.S. Code § 2385) as a result of the MOSTLY PEACEFUL events of January 6, 2021

As of today, NOBODY has been charged with Threatening government officials of the United States (under 18 U.S.C. § 871 or 18 U.S. Code § 351 or 18 U.S. Code § 115 or any local statute) as a result of the MOSTLY PEACEFUL events of January 6, 2021

As of today only 570 individuals], (<1.9 %) out of the >30,000 people attending the MOSTLY PEACEFUL January 6, 2021 rally in DC have been charged with a crime.

As of today only 35 individuals, (<0.10 %) out of the >30,000 people attending the MOSTLY PEACEFUL January 6, 2021 rally in DC have been charged with "conspiracy".

As of today only 35 individuals, (6.1 %) out of the 570 people arrested as a result of the MOSTLY PEACEFUL events of January 6, 2021 have been charged with "conspiracy".

As of today only 3 individuals, (0.5 %) out of the 570 people arrested as a result of the MOSTLY PEACEFUL events of January 6, 2021 have pled guilty to "conspiracy".

As of today only 22 individuals, (3.8 %) out of the 570 people arrested as a result of the MOSTLY PEACEFUL events of January 6, 2021 have pled guilty to any charges

As of today only 22 individuals, (<0.07 %) out of the >30,000 people attending the MOSTLY PEACEFUL January 6, 2021 rally in DC have pled guilty to any charges

As of today only 17 individuals, (<0.05 %) out of the >30,000 people attending the MOSTLY PEACEFUL January 6, 2021 rally in DC alleged to be members of the "Oath Keepers" group have been charged with a crime.

As of today only 12 individuals, (<0.04 %) out of the >30,000 people attending the MOSTLY PEACEFUL January 6, 2021 rally in DC alleged to be members of the "Proud Boys" group have been charged with a crime.

As of today only 1 needless homicide happened at the MOSTLY PEACEFUL January 6, 2021 rally in DC and it was committed by a Demorat with a documented history of mishandling his firearm.

As of today 1 unopened LEGO toy has been seized by the Biden administration as "evidence of a conspiracy" related to the MOSTLY PEACEFUL January 6, 2021 rally in DC

As of today the FBI has officially determined that THERE WAS NO INSURRECTION and that THERE WAS NO LARGE ORGANIZED CONSPIRACY BY ANY "RIGHT WING" GROUPS and that NEITHER FORMER PRESIDENT TRUMP NOR ANY OF HIS ASSOCIATES OR ADVISORS WERE INVOLVED IN ANY PLANNING OF A RIOT OR VIOLENCE arising from the MOSTLY PEACEFUL events of the January 6, 2021 rally in DC.
olejoedad AUG 26, 12:39 AM

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Originally posted by rinselberg:

The tragedy of Ashli Babbitt wasn't on January 6--it was in the days, weeks, months and even a year or years before, when she became radicalized.

There's quite a bit of reporting about it.




When did you become radicalized?

Did you become radicalized against the principles of the country you live in, or radicalized to defend the principles that this country was founded upon?

I have a hunch that our answers to the above question will be different, and for different reasons.
rinselberg AUG 26, 12:52 AM
  • Joining a mob that had broken into the Capitol Building when it was not open to the public
  • Trying to gain entrance to the area behind that door, when police were putting their bodies on the line to deny the "trespassers" entrance to that area
  • Trying to climb through an opening in that door that had been created where a window glass had been dislodged

That is "Radicalized."

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olejoedad AUG 26, 01:01 AM
She served in the military and took an oath to "defend and protect" from all enemies - foreign and DOMESTIC. By accounts, she served honorably.

Is that 'radicalized'?

Did you take such an oath?

Do you think there are domestic enemies?

Are you one of them?

We will disagree on this, I am sure.
rinselberg AUG 26, 03:15 AM

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Originally posted by olejoedad:

She served in the military and took an oath to "defend and protect" from all enemies - foreign and DOMESTIC. By accounts, she served honorably.

Is that 'radicalized'?

Did you take such an oath?

Do you think there are domestic enemies?

Are you one of them?

We will disagree on this, I am sure.


That's right. Ashli Babbitt served honorably, in the Air Force, years before January 6. And she repeated that oath, years before January 6.

All immaterial, with respect to what she did, and what was done to her, on January 6.

Just as it would be equally immaterial, if Ashli Babbitt were still an active Air Force member, or part of the Air Force Reserve or Air National Guard, on January 6.


People who did not, or do not believe that the election of 2020 was conducted in a fair and non-partisan way, have options.

The election of 2020 (of course) is actually 50 elections, conducted independently by each of the 50 states.

What are the options for these "Elections Truthers"..?
  1. Accept the results, that Biden is the new President. Accept the results, and move forward on that basis.
  2. Work to change the way that future elections are conducted, by influencing their representatives at the local, state and federal levels of government.

These two options were (are) not mutually exclusive.


But there was a THIRD option . . . "January 6." Gather in DC and march on the Capitol Building. "It's going to be WILD," said some, from MAGA world.

Ashli Babbitt chose among the least advisable of her options. She chose "January 6." She chose an option that was the least advisable (of these three options), by far.

Not even close.

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randye AUG 26, 05:47 AM

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Originally posted by rinselberg:

That is "Radicalized."




NO IT ISN'T

You don't understand the meaning of "radicalized" and you are simply parroting PUKING Leftist propaganda.

Since you don't understand the actual meaning of it you have no business trying to define it for others.

Those who seek to overthrow our government are radicals.

Ashli Babbitt never voiced a desire to overthrow our government

THIS IS RADICALIZED:

rad•i•cal

/ˈradək(ə)l/

adjective

advocating or based on thorough or complete political or social change;

representing or supporting an extreme or progressive section of a political party.

Similar: revolutionary....progressive














WOW!.... LOOK, IT'S A "MILITARY STYLE STACK FORMATION "

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randye AUG 26, 05:49 AM


As of today, NOBODY has been charged with Insurrection or sedition or even homicide as a result of the MOSTLY PEACEFUL events of January 6, 2021

As of today, NOBODY has been charged with Advocating overthrow of Government (18 U.S. Code § 2385) as a result of the MOSTLY PEACEFUL events of January 6, 2021

As of today, NOBODY has been charged with Threatening government officials of the United States (under 18 U.S.C. § 871 or 18 U.S. Code § 351 or 18 U.S. Code § 115 or any local statute) as a result of the MOSTLY PEACEFUL events of January 6, 2021

As of today only 570 individuals], (<1.9 %) out of the >30,000 people attending the MOSTLY PEACEFUL January 6, 2021 rally in DC have been charged with a crime.

As of today only 35 individuals, (<0.10 %) out of the >30,000 people attending the MOSTLY PEACEFUL January 6, 2021 rally in DC have been charged with "conspiracy".

As of today only 35 individuals, (6.1 %) out of the 570 people arrested as a result of the MOSTLY PEACEFUL events of January 6, 2021 have been charged with "conspiracy".

As of today only 3 individuals, (0.5 %) out of the 570 people arrested as a result of the MOSTLY PEACEFUL events of January 6, 2021 have pled guilty to "conspiracy".

As of today only 22 individuals, (3.8 %) out of the 570 people arrested as a result of the MOSTLY PEACEFUL events of January 6, 2021 have pled guilty to any charges

As of today only 22 individuals, (<0.07 %) out of the >30,000 people attending the MOSTLY PEACEFUL January 6, 2021 rally in DC have pled guilty to any charges

As of today only 17 individuals, (<0.05 %) out of the >30,000 people attending the MOSTLY PEACEFUL January 6, 2021 rally in DC alleged to be members of the "Oath Keepers" group have been charged with a crime.

As of today only 12 individuals, (<0.04 %) out of the >30,000 people attending the MOSTLY PEACEFUL January 6, 2021 rally in DC alleged to be members of the "Proud Boys" group have been charged with a crime.

As of today only 1 needless homicide happened at the MOSTLY PEACEFUL January 6, 2021 rally in DC and it was committed by a Demorat with a documented history of mishandling his firearm.

As of today 1 unopened LEGO toy has been seized by the Biden administration as "evidence of a conspiracy" related to the MOSTLY PEACEFUL January 6, 2021 rally in DC

As of today the FBI has officially determined that THERE WAS NO INSURRECTION and that THERE WAS NO LARGE ORGANIZED CONSPIRACY BY ANY "RIGHT WING" GROUPS and that NEITHER FORMER PRESIDENT TRUMP NOR ANY OF HIS ASSOCIATES OR ADVISORS WERE INVOLVED IN ANY PLANNING OF A RIOT OR VIOLENCE arising from the MOSTLY PEACEFUL events of the January 6, 2021 rally in DC.
Raydar AUG 26, 06:56 AM

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Originally posted by rinselberg:

That's right. Ashli Babbitt served honorably, in the Air Force, years before January 6. And she repeated that oath, years before January 6.

All immaterial, with respect to what she did, and what was done to her, on January 6.




Not likely immaterial to her, and a few million (think about that) of her "closest friends".

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sourmash AUG 26, 08:49 AM
Note the pics Randye posted. In all cases this is at the will of state, local and/or federal governments.

When any group sets to counter this, all gov bodies allow them to be attacked by those pictured individuals and groups.

Let it burn. The system can not be reformed.

People reading this, falsely thinking they are conservative, won't lend support for the right wingers trying to restore and you even join to defeat them. You call them racist because the narrative tells you you're next if you don't do what the left does. And being a coward, you do as you're told.
You lend no resistance, not even one for Free Speech. You offer no value. And in the end you'll get no quarter from anyone. It will be your fault. Don't delude yourself that everyone won't know which side you were on. The left that you cower to will still hate you. The real right will too.

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rinselberg AUG 26, 01:43 PM
"The Journey of Ashli Babbitt"
The Bellingcat Investigative Team, for Bellingcat; January 8, 2021.
https://www.bellingcat.com/...ey-of-ashli-babbitt/


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Over the past five years, a potent MAGA online subculture appears to have transformed this former Obama voter [Ashli Babbitt], who turned to Trump over a dislike of Hillary Clinton, into a QAnon follower ready to storm the Capitol.



This is a must addition to anyone's Ashli Babbitt collection. If anyone reading this has such a thing.