COVID Test Kits. A (Fiero) Public Service Announcement. (Page 6/6)
sourmash FEB 23, 09:03 AM
And I posted my experience. My doctor had no concern about whether I'm injected or not. They just said to wear a mask in the office. The hospital I checked into for injuries didnt really care about injections.

I still don't know anyone who died of covid. The only death is the person who wouldn't treat her covid and it turned into pneumonia. She couldn't walk across the room before someone called for assistance. Then she refused to move to the regional Covid hospital. Later she refused intubation and requested do not resuscitate, CHOOSING to die at a rural hospital.

It's obvious that what triggers some of you guys into casting insults is pointing out all the false claims that govt and NGOs have made. How come you guys refuse to acknowledge that there has been a long chain of false statements made to coerce public compliance?
Raydar FEB 23, 02:38 PM

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I still don't know anyone who died of covid. The only death is the person who wouldn't treat her covid and it turned into pneumonia.



Kind of how it works. Isn't it?
Sorry. Just semantics, to me. How many hundred thousand wouldn't have died of pneumonia, if they hadn't caught COVID? Probably most of them.


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It's obvious that what triggers some of you guys into casting insults is pointing out all the false claims that govt and NGOs have made. How come you guys refuse to acknowledge that there has been a long chain of false statements made to coerce public compliance?



I'll offer an opinion. You will, no doubt, disagree.
Sure there were some false statements. But I don't believe they were all designed to be false. I also don't believe that most of them were designed to coerce compliance. (Some of them certainly were, but not all. Or even most, I think.)
As I said before, this is all new. At least it was, two years ago. They are making it up as they go. (I prefer to think that most people are "thinking on their feet".) As new info becomes available, it obsoletes old info. Kind of how it works.You do the best you can, with what you've got, until something better comes along.
Of course some people, like Fauci, have used it to their own advantage. Whatever. I stopped listening to him a long time ago.

But please give some of us credit for having a little bit of intelligence, and doing what works for us.
steve308 FEB 23, 02:53 PM
Mine arrived yesterday and I didn't even order them! Maybe there is some validity that the vaccine contained a mine reading, thought altering micro biological substance (as some here believe) that allowed it to have me think about the home test kit. Then it read my mind thinking about the kit and then caused a telepathic transfer of the order to a spy satellite which then generated the order thru what can only be a black ops homeland security division which then sent the kits which must have a super-secret camera designed to spy on my 24-7.

Can't wait until another booster is available, perhaps they will send out a pie.
sourmash FEB 23, 02:53 PM
No complaints with people doing what's right for them.
And I believe you are the only one in recent times to seriously acknowledge those issues of false or erroneous statements. Many of our most vocal political leaders pushing the masking mandates don't believe The Science and get or got caught unmasked all the time.
Raydar FEB 23, 05:03 PM

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Many of our most vocal political leaders pushing the masking mandates don't believe The Science and get or got caught unmasked all the time.



There's the rub... You can't mandate masks for your "subjects", and then blow off the requirement yourself. (Stacey Abrams, are you listening?)
Of course they always have an excuse. "But it was just for the pic, and I was holding my breath, and.., and..." Right. Whatever.

Me? I might wear a mask if I'm going to be in a crowded environment. And if someone that I'm going to be around for any length of time asks me to wear a mask, I probably will - as a courtesy. (Who knows what they might be dealing with. No real skin off my azz, either way.)
And if they're wearing one I might also, anyway. At the very least, I won't crowd them.

My wife wears one a little more frequently than I do. But she's in public more than I am (I'm married to a computer for 8 hours a day) and also has a risk factor or two.
But people gotta do what they gotta do.
randye FEB 26, 09:46 PM
FREE TEST KITS AND MASKS FOR EVERYONE!!!...YIPPEE!!!

I just found out today that the Biden government, (Veterans Administration), just recently moved all of what they call "prosthetic supplies" responsibility away from the various local Veterans hospitals and clinics and located ALL of it into what they are now calling the "Denver Acquisitions & Logistics Center".

The VA classifies a whole host of different things as "prosthetic supplies", including hearing aid batteries, TENS units and associated supplies, CPAP units and supplies, osteo supplies, and many, many other things that Veterans rely on as prescribed by their doctors.

I also found out today that the "Denver Acquisitions & Logistics Center" is involved in this insane free test kits and masks giveaway to ALL American citizens....

....accordingly they now claim that as a result of that they are more than 8 MONTHS BEHIND in delivering the much needed and required medical prosthetic supplies to Veterans.

HOORAY FOR FREE TEST KITS AND MASKS....SCREW THE VETERANS

LETS GO BRANDON!

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maryjane FEB 27, 12:51 AM
The VA's DALC has been around certainly for over 20 years and the move to consolidate prosthetic inventories began over a well dozen years ago.
One of the reasons regional VA facilities no longer keep much prosthetic inventories is that the VA found most of what the regional units had on hand were basically obsolete. They first found this out when they began switching over from a paper records to computer records at DALC There have been such far reaching advances in medicine in the last dozen years, that the VA was behind the ball on being able to acquire the newer (better) prosthetics, including artificial arms, legs, hands, and even hearing aids. A 2003 DALK paper revealed that more than 1/2 the prosthetic limbs in the regional systems were the same ones that were available for Vietnam veterans coming right out of S. Vietnam.

The biggest problem in the VA has, for over 40 years been their lack of a common computer language. In the late 70s, some within the VA created their own, called VistA, Veterans Information System & Technology Architecture. tweaked by on the ground VA doctors, with the changes peer reviewed and distributed through out the system. It spread. The VA IT pioneers were years ahead of their time. Extremely efficient and everyone from DALC down to the regional doctors, surgeons and therapists loved it, but soon enough, private companies complained to both DoD and Congress that they were being pushed out of the loop for IT contracts to the largest health care sector in the world. People like CERN, Seimens, EPIC GE and others lobbied congress to force VA to accept their IT protocols or at least let them bid.
In August 2017, a Medscape survey of 15,000 physicians found that the VA system, called VistA, ranked as the most usable and useful medical records system, above hundreds of other commercial versions marketed by hotshot tech companies with powerful Washington lobbyists.
randye FEB 27, 01:15 AM

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The VA's DALC has been around certainly for over 20 years and the move to consolidate prosthetic inventories began over a well dozen years ago.
One of the reasons regional VA facilities no longer keep much prosthetic inventories is that the VA found most of what the regional units had on hand were basically obsolete. They first found this out when they began switching over from a paper records to computer records at DALC There have been such far reaching advances in medicine in the last dozen years, that the VA was behind the ball on being able to acquire the newer (better) prosthetics, including artificial arms, legs, hands, and even hearing aids. A 2003 DALK paper revealed that more than 1/2 the prosthetic limbs in the regional systems were the same ones that were available for Vietnam veterans coming right out of S. Vietnam.

The biggest problem in the VA has, for over 40 years been their lack of a common computer language. In the late 70s, some within the VA created their own, called VistA, Veterans Information System & Technology Architecture. tweaked by on the ground VA doctors, with the changes peer reviewed and distributed through out the system. It spread. The VA IT pioneers were years ahead of their time. Extremely efficient and everyone from DALC down to the regional doctors, surgeons and therapists loved it, but soon enough, private companies complained to both DoD and Congress that they were being pushed out of the loop for IT contracts to the largest health care sector in the world. People like CERN, Seimens, EPIC GE and others lobbied congress to force VA to accept their IT protocols or at least let them bid.
In August 2017, a Medscape survey of 15,000 physicians found that the VA system, called VistA, ranked as the most usable and useful medical records system, above hundreds of other commercial versions marketed by hotshot tech companies with powerful Washington lobbyists.




That's all fascinating history Don, however the Tampa James A Haley VA Hospital, one of the largest VA hospitals in the US just made the announcement this past November 2021 that all prosthetic supplies would now be fulfilled directly to veterans from the DALC.

Phone messages when calling in to the Tampa JAHVA hospital direct veterans to call the DALC. Those phone calls all automatically go to a voicemail.

The young, exasperated, woman at the DALC that finally called me back AFTER 1 MONTH , told me that the VA had just recently dumped ALL of the prosthetics supplies fulfillment directly to veterans on them.

She told me that they do not now, and never have had, the staff to handle this and that the government has not allocated any budget for them to hire more help. She told me that their role before now was NOT supplying individual veterans, but supplying the various VA hospitals and clinics.

Please don't take my word for any of this, just call her @ 303-272-6200 ( I believe her name is Melanie)

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maryjane FEB 27, 01:41 AM
I talk to veterans everyday at Together We Served (over 2 million members) and it has several 'sticky' VA threads where discussion is open and frank. This long wait time and the requirement for ordering prosthetics is nothing new Randy. Been the norm for several years, and almost everyone on that board uses the VA. Everyone knows what DALC and ROES is. I find it strange that you are just now finding these things out.

https://www.togetherweserved.com/
randye FEB 27, 02:41 AM

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I talk to veterans everyday at Together We Served (over 2 million members) and it has several 'sticky' VA threads where discussion is open and frank. This long wait time and the requirement for ordering prosthetics is nothing new Randy. Been the norm for several years, and almost everyone on that board uses the VA. Everyone knows what DALC and ROES is. I find it strange that you are just now finding these things out.

https://www.togetherweserved.com/




So kind of you to suggest the I am somehow slow to find things out, but no matter how "strange" you find it, that simply isn't the case Don.

As I said: " The Tampa James A Haley VA Hospital, one of the largest VA hospitals in the US, just made the announcement this past November 2021 that all prosthetic supplies would now be fulfilled directly to veterans from the DALC.

If you doubt that then PLEASE DON'T TAKE MY WORD FOR IT...simply dial the Tampa JAHVA at 1-813-972-2000 X6316

As I also suggested earlier you can call the DALC directly and ask them.


For the past 17 years that I've been using the VA health system all of my supplies have come to me directly from the JAHVA in Tampa and I have never received any "obsolete" items or supplies.

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