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| What do we Fiero enthusiasts think about the Infrastructure bill? (Page 6/7) |
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williegoat
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AUG 19, 03:42 PM
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rinselberg
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AUG 20, 07:09 PM
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| quote | In Great Britain, Siemens Mobility has just been brought on board a consortium that wants to build an eHighway test track on the M180 near Scunthorpe, an industrial town in North Lincolnshire, England. At least 19 miles of the M180 will be electrified, linking Immingham Port with the logistics hubs of Doncaster and its airport. This could be operational in 2024. . .
The eHighway has some practical technical hurdles to overcome. Overhead lines may be adversely affected by strong winds causing wires to swing. Storms can knock the power out with lightning strikes on the overhead wires, stopping trucks following a power surge. During cold or frosty weather, ice may coat overhead lines, not only causing poor electrical contact between the collector and the overhead line, but also possibly resulting in electrical arcing and power surges. |
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"Electric Highway Tests Accelerate in Germany and the UK"
Murray Slovick for Electronic Design; August 19, 2021.
https://www.electronicdesig...n-germany-and-the-uk
This is a "tech-forward" writeup. A few minutes of "read." Anyone looking to read their first article about the Siemens eHighway concept can't go wrong with this one.
Is it a "crime" on my part to disturb the serenity or tranquility of this U.S. infrastructure-centric forum Topic in this way?
I hope not.
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williegoat
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AUG 20, 07:29 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by rinselberg:
This is a "tech-forward" writeup. A few minutes of "read." Anyone looking to read their first article about the Siemens eHighway concept can't go wrong with this one.
Is it a "crime" on my part to disturb the serenity or tranquility of this U.S. infrastructure-centric forum Topic in this way?
I hope not.
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rinselberg
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AUG 21, 02:04 PM
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That can't be John Kerry, can it? John Kerry, doing his "windsurfing" thing. Or someone impersonating John Kerry?
John Kerry, current U.S. Climate Envoy for National Security or U.S. CENS.
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williegoat
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AUG 21, 02:56 PM
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That is the clip which spawned a popular idiom.
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rinselberg
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AUG 21, 03:26 PM
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"Jumping the shark" ?
I don't see the shark, though.
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82-T/A [At Work]
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AUG 21, 03:49 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by rinselberg:
"Overhead electrification of trucking routes embraces a 'Back to the Future' philosophy."
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I know you and I said said we didn't necessarily think this was the greatest idea... (better to just have multiple charging stations, or what have you)...
But this picture does not instill confidence. I have to assume there are some rail (street driven) cars that operate this way, otherwise they wouldn't be proposing this. I just question how this works if the trucker decides he wants to pass, or starts to veer off the lane. Brussels does this, but the trolly is on a track. I'm just not seeing how this works unless the truck is on a track. In which case, why not just build an electrified rail way, with a cargo pick-up and drop-off point at the beginning and end of this highway?
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rinselberg
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AUG 21, 08:25 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by 82-T/A [At Work]:
I know you and I said said we didn't necessarily think this was the greatest idea... (better to just have multiple charging stations, or what have you)...
But this picture does not instill confidence. I have to assume there are some rail (street driven) cars that operate this way, otherwise they wouldn't be proposing this. I just question how this works if the trucker decides he wants to pass, or starts to veer off the lane. Brussels does this, but the trolly is on a track. I'm just not seeing how this works unless the truck is on a track. In which case, why not just build an electrified rail way, with a cargo pick-up and drop-off point at the beginning and end of this highway? |
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Someone just said the Magic Word(s)
1 min 30 sec mark. Trucker raises pantograph to start drawing electricity from overhead wires.
https://youtu.be/HbgxcyZP0_Y?t=90
It's part of an under 4-minute, narrated 3D animation.
"Siemens eHighway Animation Port Application"
Siemens on YouTube; May 2, 2016.
I think this video makes the "pitch" for why this setup offers more flexibility and more possibilities, vs tracked or rail transport installations.[This message has been edited by rinselberg (edited 08-23-2021).]
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rinselberg
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AUG 23, 12:50 PM
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| quote | Germany’s Ministry for Environment, which is funding the three electrified highways in Germany, is comparing the results with studies of trucks using hydrogen fuel cells and trucks using batteries. In three or four years, the ministry said in a statement, a decision will be made what technology to support.
“Numerous studies have come to the conclusion that overhead cable trucks, despite the high infrastructure costs, are the most cost-effective option,” the ministry said.
But, responding to questions from The New York Times, the ministry noted that batteries are getting cheaper and better all the time, and charging times are dropping. “In the final analysis the total cost of infrastructure, vehicles and energy will decide what technology or combination of technologies prevails,” the ministry said. |
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That's an excerpt from a recent and "longish" article in the New York Times that I hadn't seen before.
"What if Highways Were Electric? Germany Is Testing the Idea."
| quote | | An electrified highway is theoretically the most efficient way to eliminate truck emissions. But the political obstacles are daunting. |
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Jack Ewing for the New York Times; August 3, 2021.
https://www.nytimes.com/202...s-catenary-wire.html[This message has been edited by rinselberg (edited 08-23-2021).]
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olejoedad
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AUG 24, 08:34 AM
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The "infrastructure' bill is just another Democrat slush fund in waiting.
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