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maryjane
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APR 28, 11:43 AM
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| quote | Originally posted by Jake_Dragon:
and they didn't want to have their homes burned to the ground. |
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Have any of the 12 jurors stated that in person as being a reason for deciding one way or another?[This message has been edited by maryjane (edited 04-28-2021).]
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cliffw
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APR 28, 12:15 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by maryjane:
Have any of the 12 jurors stated that in person as being a reason for deciding one way or another?
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Cowards cower.
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maryjane
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APR 28, 12:32 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by cliffw:
Cowards cower. |
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You have proof that any of the 12 jurors were cowards?
(A judge has ordered their identities be sealed)
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Jake_Dragon
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APR 28, 12:39 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by maryjane:
You have proof that any of the 12 jurors were cowards?
(A judge has ordered their identities be sealed) |
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And our elected should not share information with other foreign nations but **** happens.
Just saying the entire thing was a mess from the start.
Did the cop **** up, yes and should be held accountable but the punishment should fit.
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maryjane
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APR 28, 12:49 PM
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We don't know yet what the 'punishment' is.
I'm pretty sure tho, it won't be the "An eye for an eye" as stated in Hammurabi's code and the biblical version stated in Deuteronomy 19:21 and Leviticus 24:19.[This message has been edited by maryjane (edited 04-28-2021).]
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LitebulbwithaFiero
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APR 28, 12:56 PM
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As someone who has not followed this, how does someone get charged with 2 counts of murder for 1 man's death?
Did he kill him twice on purpose and once accidentally?
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maryjane
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APR 28, 01:32 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by LitebulbwithaFiero:
As someone who has not followed this, how does someone get charged with 2 counts of murder for 1 man's death?
Did he kill him twice on purpose and once accidentally? |
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The charges are levied not by the # of deaths or victims, but by the different possible mental states of the perpetrator as the event unfolds. It doesn't mean all 3 of the offenses occurred simultaneously.
The second-degree unintentional murder charge is what's known as felony murder, or when a person commits an *underlying felony* and someone unintentionally dies.(creating an unreasonable risk, by consciously taking the chance of causing death or great bodily harm to someone else)
The third-degree murder charge alleged that Chauvin had a "depraved mind, **without regard for human life."
(unintentionally causing a death by committing an act that is eminently dangerous to other persons while exhibiting a depraved mind, with reckless disregard for human life)
Finally, the second-degree manslaughter charge relies on "culpable negligence," which has been interpreted to mean gross negligence combined with recklessness. (causing the death of a human being, without intent, while committing or attempting to commit an assault)
*the underlying felony was the assualt that was part and parcel of 2nd degree manslaughter.
** 'Without regard to human life' came about (according to the prosecution) when Chauvin kept his knee on the victim's neck even after the victim said he couldn't breath and even after the EMT told him there was no pulse.
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cliffw
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APR 28, 02:27 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by maryjane:
The charges are levied not by the # of deaths or victims, but by the different possible mental states of the perpetrator as the event unfolds.
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The possible mental states of the perpetrator, possible ? Never proven beyond a reasonable doubt. There was no testimony about Chauvin's mental state.
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maryjane
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APR 28, 02:58 PM
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The jury obviously disagreed with that assessment Cliff.
Juries are more often than not, required to weigh all testimony and evidence to come to a conclusion and the speed at which they did in this case is telling.
Considering it only takes one juror to acquit, and that they found guilty on all 3 charges, I suspect they saw more in this case than we did on the outside looking in.[This message has been edited by maryjane (edited 04-28-2021).]
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LitebulbwithaFiero
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APR 28, 03:29 PM
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Thanks for the info MaryJane.
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