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Hudini
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FEB 05, 09:20 PM
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Hell I see it everyday. I have an app called Air Matters that lists both the PRC numbers and the US Embassy in the various cities. And it always is different with the PRC numbers lower.
Today's numbers : PRC = 154 US Embassy = 173 (BTW, those are very ugly numbers. Like it's foggy outside except it ain't fog)
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masospaghetti
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FEB 05, 10:45 PM
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Hudini, what would it take for you to believe that AGW was real? 2 degrees C above normal? 3 C? 5 C? Deniers keep moving the goalpost so it's impossible to "settle the science".
I also find that most deniers don't want government in their business and therefore WANT to believe that global warming isn't a big deal. That's equivalent to burying your head in the sand.
And therein lies the problem. Global warming is two COMPLETELY separate issues. 1 - are humans causing the earth to warm? 2 - what can we do about it?
(I haven't read the last 50 or so pages, so forgive me if I missed something)
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avengador1
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FEB 05, 10:52 PM
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avengador1
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FEB 06, 12:18 PM
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avengador1
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FEB 06, 09:01 PM
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avengador1
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FEB 06, 11:04 PM
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avengador1
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FEB 06, 11:06 PM
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ray b
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FEB 07, 12:42 PM
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''From what I understand to the Karl 2015 paper. The changes were to he anomaly data, not the raw data. This was done because the ship water intake data has a significantly longer data record.
It's like knowing your tank temperature data sensor has a 0.5 deg offset. You know that the measurements from 10 years ago are (0.5, 0.6. 0.7), nowadays the new measurements are (0.6, 0.8, and 1.0). Even if the instrument baseline is off the anomaly is still (0.1, 0.2, 0.3) and there is huge effort ifrom the folks running all of the the datasets to trace down and account for errors in these anomalies due to changes in location, time-of-observation, instrumentation, shielding, etc.
The article is a piss-poor attempt to denigrate working scientists who have, in cases, committed a lifetime of observational studies to the body of work relating to this subject. Venal politicians are totally did-respectful of the effort required to gain some of the data, that they misconstrue s falsified. I'd love to see their fat-arses out on the ice releasing and tracking met balloons at stupid o'clock in the morning, or boring ice holes for ice thickness measurements to calibrate and back-up the satellite measurements. No doubt they will be too busy wining and dining lobbyists! ''
quote from the .internationalskeptics board on the daily mail lies
those lies are repeated endlessly by the nut-con's like agragavateadoor does here
but as the poster said
we never see the nut-con deniers out getting data of their own
just lying about the data others have collected ------------------
Question wonder and be wierd
are you kind?
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jmclemore
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FEB 07, 02:05 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by ray b:
The article is a piss-poor attempt to denigrate working scientists who have, in cases, committed a lifetime of observational studies to the body of work relating to this subject. Venal politicians are totally did-respectful of the effort required to gain some of the data, that they misconstrue s falsified. I'd love to see their fat-arses out on the ice releasing and tracking met balloons at stupid o'clock in the morning, or boring ice holes for ice thickness measurements to calibrate and back-up the satellite measurements. No doubt they will be too busy wining and dining lobbyists! ''
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And the fact that they have deticated their lives and careers to their study does not justify the deliberate manipulation of data to avoid an inconvenient truth.....
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rinselberg
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FEB 07, 07:30 PM
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Republican "elders" float carbon tax plan, prepare to lobby White House
Group includes James Baker, George Schulzt, Hank Paulsen and last (but not least) Ted Halstead of the New America Foundation.
John King, Chief CNN National Correspondent for CNN Politics (February 7, 2017)
http://www.cnn.com/2017/02/...te-change/index.html
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