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rinselberg
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MAR 01, 01:13 PM
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For more: Civic Exchange 2009 The Air We Breathe Conference - U.S. Politics and Laws as Drivers for Air Quality Management (AQM) http://www.slideshare.net/C...ity-management-aqm[This message has been edited by rinselberg (edited 03-02-2016).]
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newf
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MAR 01, 01:13 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by jmclemore:
So a four corners plant was found to have created acid rain in another state or country outside of their state of operation?
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I don't think it points to one particular plant but it does show the causation and contributors to acid rain. They cannot be explained by natural causes alone.
Are you suggesting that the plants such as the four corners plant do not contribute to pollution and acid rain which effects other parts of the environment in and outside of the state in which the plants are located?
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jmclemore
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MAR 01, 02:22 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by newf:
I don't think it points to one particular plant but it does show the causation and contributors to acid rain. They cannot be explained by natural causes alone.
Are you suggesting that the plants such as the four corners plant do not contribute to pollution and acid rain which effects other parts of the environment in and outside of the state in which the plants are located? |
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Oh please don't read more into my position than it's face value. I am a simpleton. So no suggestion at all.
I asked for a case where they or another company directly affected the "air quality" or "climate" in another state. Not a contribution that "may" "could" or "is believed" to be associate with poor "air quality" or "climate". I was looking for a contribution that was actually linked to an event where the "air quality" and or "climate" of another state was measured documenting that link.
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newf
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MAR 01, 02:38 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by jmclemore:
Oh please don't read more into my position than it's face value. I am a simpleton. So no suggestion at all.
I asked for a case where they or another company directly affected the "air quality" or "climate" in another state. Not a contribution that "may" "could" or "is believed" to be associate with poor "air quality" or "climate". I was looking for a contribution that was actually linked to an event where the "air quality" and or "climate" of another state was measured documenting that link. |
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You're obviously not a simpleton but I suspect you are being deliberately obtuse. Your wish for a direct link to a companies specific output of pollutant to the air quality/climate/whatever of another state is like proving that someones lung cancer is definitively caused by their smoking a particular brand of cigarettes IMO.
But hey, lots of people sleep better at night not worrying about such things.[This message has been edited by newf (edited 03-01-2016).]
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jmclemore
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MAR 02, 02:15 AM
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| quote | Originally posted by newf:
You're obviously not a simpleton but I suspect you are being deliberately obtuse. Your wish for a direct link to a companies specific output of pollutant to the air quality/climate/whatever of another state is like proving that someones lung cancer is definitively caused by their smoking a particular brand of cigarettes IMO.
But hey, lots of people sleep better at night not worrying about such things.
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A lot of Government Authority is based on the interstate commerce. Demonstrating a release to the environment is one thing, but demonstrating a relationship between the point of origin it's final destination is another.
There are many documented cases where pollutants were release into the air. Likewise, there is ample documentation that supports links between pollutants and the potential risks to humans and the environment. But, with the convictions of those who believe that there are broad reaching potential threats that extend beyond the state they were released, I simply asked for a documented incident that shows harm to the environment and residents of another state beyond it's point of origin....
Remember, our discussion began with the EPA's right/authority to enforce enacted laws.
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rinselberg
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MAR 02, 02:34 AM
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It sounds like you might find your thoughts beings articulated in this brief Power Point presentation (10 slides in an online "slideshow" style presentation)
http://www.slideshare.net/C...ity-management-aqm[This message has been edited by rinselberg (edited 03-02-2016).]
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avengador1
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MAR 09, 11:16 PM
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rinselberg
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MAR 10, 03:53 AM
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Nice catch, on that new temperature data "bombshell" from NOAA, as reported by the Conservative Tribune.
Here's another new breakout story that "corroborates" that report from the Conservative Tribune. This one is in the National Enquirer:
Supreme Court Justice Scalia — Murdered By A Hooker
In a bombshell world exclusive, The National ENQUIRER has learned that U.S. Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia’s death was a highly planned “political assassination” orchestrated by the CIA and carried out by a $2,000-a-night hooker! A top Washington, D.C. source said the Feb. 13 death of the 79-year-old jurist at a remote Texas ranch just 15 miles from Mexico was part of a “shocking conspiracy that tracks back to the CIA and the White House!"
http://www.nationalenquirer...candal/photo/149939/
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MAR 10, 09:05 AM
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I can feel the hot air blowing already. 

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avengador1
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MAR 28, 09:05 PM
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Climate Change: The Greatest-Ever Conspiracy Against The Taxpayer http://www.breitbart.com/lo...ok&utm_medium=social Climate change is the biggest scam in the history of the world – a $1.5 trillion-a-year conspiracy against the taxpayer, every cent, penny and centime of which ends in the pockets of the wrong kind of people, none of which goes towards a cause remotely worth funding, all of it a complete and utter waste.
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