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rinselberg
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FEB 27, 02:36 AM
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avengador1
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FEB 28, 10:39 AM
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Threedog
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FEB 28, 10:54 AM
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jmclemore
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FEB 28, 01:31 PM
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Who gets the honor of defining what a "better world" would be?
Looking across the world stage I see very little experience among
the current leaders to provide an example of a "better world". Instead
I see tyranny, corruption, genocide and incompetence. If this is the way
they treat people, how can I trust them to do any better with the environment.
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Threedog
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FEB 28, 07:56 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by jmclemore:
Who gets the honor of defining what a "better world" would be?
Looking across the world stage I see very little experience among
the current leaders to provide an example of a "better world". Instead
I see tyranny, corruption, genocide and incompetence. If this is the way
they treat people, how can I trust them to do any better with the environment. |
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Well...
I am happy to see this instead of this.
I like driving through Texas and seeing this instead of this.
If I have to pay an extra $100 dollars on my next exhaust job and $100 a year in an inspection on my car I think that is a fair price to pay for clean air and water. I love nature, and the United States has much better air quality than nations like China or India where pollution is unregulated. Its not like a Cat really takes away a noticeable amount of horsepower, and you can buy a brand new car for 50k that makes 700+ horse power that passes emissions so it doesn't really hurt us.
I credit the EPA with our air quality, and I am thankful for it.
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FEB 29, 08:32 AM
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It is a strawman argument and childish to say the people who argue about global warming and its causes want pollution.
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jmclemore
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FEB 29, 10:25 AM
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| quote | Originally posted by Threedog:
I credit the EPA with our air quality, and I am thankful for it. |
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I credit the Cities, Manufactures and Consumers they made the hard choices,
did all the work and paid all the cost. All the EPA did was be the Bully the
Government created. They no longer (if ever) benefit the environment. They
just issue fines...... I wonder how much of that money goes to fixing the problem
that generated the fine....
Anybody else heard of being fined for bucket of water... Frivolous
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Threedog
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FEB 29, 01:32 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by jmclemore:
I credit the Cities, Manufactures and Consumers they made the hard choices,
did all the work and paid all the cost. All the EPA did was be the Bully the
Government created. They no longer (if ever) benefit the environment. They
just issue fines...... I wonder how much of that money goes to fixing the problem
that generated the fine....
Anybody else heard of being fined for bucket of water... Frivolous |
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You really think the companies and consumers would have made the same decisions if they had not been forced to by the government?
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jmclemore
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FEB 29, 02:24 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by Threedog:
You really think the companies and consumers would have made the same decisions if they had not been forced to by the government?
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Yes, in this litigious environment and society.
But, what gives the Government the right to
walk into a state to directly confront a company.
It is a state level issue unless you think that smog
in a California city has a direct effects on the environment
in Texas, Maine and Florida.....
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newf
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FEB 29, 02:38 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by jmclemore:
Yes, in this litigious environment and society.
But, what gives the Government the right to
walk into a state to directly confront a company.
It is a state level issue unless you think that smog
in a California city has a direct effects on the environment
in Texas, Maine and Florida.....
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If the Federal Government enacts Federal laws they have every right to enforce said laws don't they?
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