The first 2020 'official' election prediction thread..... (Page 56/76)
rinselberg DEC 19, 12:11 AM

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Originally posted by Hudini:

Lincoln Project aka The Grifters

Ask them how adding 10 GOP house seats and 2 state legislatures works?


I'm not sure what to make of that.

Looking down from an altitude of 20,000 feet (figure of speech) at the results of the general elections of November 2020, Republicans did very well all across the nation, from the local and state levels, all the way up to the U.S. Senate and House of Representatives. With one glaring exception: the Trump-Pence candidacy for President and Vice President.

So in that sense, maybe the Lincoln Project was not all that successful. To tell the truth, I have not delved into the complete Lincoln Project's aims and messaging.
Hudini DEC 19, 12:12 AM

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Originally posted by cvxjet:

Well....I am surprised you have even HEARD of it since Fox an OAN hasn't even MENTIONED it......And you guys only listen to Russian-certified News outlets like FAUX and OAN. A number of my "Conservative" friends have been telling me how great Russia is, how great a leader Putin is, and how Russia is "The only Christian country in the world"...My Aunt (Retired Air Force) raved about how great Putin was- the only leader in the world BETTER than Trump....She also told me that Obama was a Communist/Foreign-born Muslim who completely wrecked the country.....There was something about the un-employment rate being at 80%......

You don't actually MIND Russia attacking our country, do you?



Anecdotal evidence that you project onto anyone who supports Trump. Please stop. It’s not a good look for you.
Hudini DEC 19, 12:19 AM

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Originally posted by rinselberg:

I'm not sure what to make of that.

Looking down from an altitude of 20,000 feet (figure of speech) at the results of the general elections of November 2020, Republicans did very well all across the nation, from the local and state levels, all the way up to the U.S. Senate and House of Representatives. With one glaring exception: the Trump-Pence candidacy for President and Vice President.

So in that sense, maybe the Lincoln Project was not all that successful. To tell the truth, I have not delved into the complete Lincoln Project's aims and messaging.




Yes, the GOP takes all those house seats and state seats and somehow, magically, Pee Pads and Knee Pads —> Odds of Biden winning all four contested states ‘less than one in a quadrillion to the fourth power’. 🤔 Kind of makes you wonder how that happened.
randye DEC 19, 12:54 AM

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Originally posted by theBDub:

What matters, is you both stated that claims(1) without proof were presumed true.....






I didn't say that.

Once again you are so concerned with searching for any imagined inconsistancy that you are failing to even attempt to understand.

It doesn't help you that you also insist on continuing to misquote me.

I don't know if you are doing that out of obstinacy or ignorance.

ONE MORE TIME, what I said was:

"Every court in the United States holds to the same concept of jurisprudence in all civil suits, that the claims of the plaintiff carry a rebuttable presumption of truth.".

THEN I even tried to help you comprehend by explaining it to you with very simple examples in the most basic way possible:

"Did you somehow wrongly assume that nobody has to provide evidence to support their claim?

Do you somehow wrongly believe that you can simply make unsupported claims in a court of law such as : "Bob owes me $5,000" without having to provide any proof / evidence of that claim?

Do you somehow wrongly believe that once Joe provides his proof of his claim in the form of an IOU for $5,000 signed by Bob that then Bob can simply claim "That's not my signature." and then not have to prove his rebuttal claim?"

It's now obvious that you either cannot, or will not, make a serious attempt to understand a very simple concept but instead you want to endlessly argue.

You'll have to do that by yourself now.

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rinselberg DEC 19, 01:19 AM

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Originally posted by Hudini:
Yes, the GOP takes all those house seats and state seats and somehow, magically, Pee Pads and Knee Pads —> Odds of Biden winning all four contested states ‘less than one in a quadrillion to the fourth power’. 🤔 Kind of makes you wonder how that happened.


Who are the statistical "experts" that came up with that "one in a quadrillion to the fourth power"..? And where have they documented their methodology?

I haven't searched, but I cannot help but think that there are likely some letters on this topic that have been published in the latest editions of some of the journals that are taken seriously by professional statisticians.

I think that there were many legitimate ballots that were voted straight Republican or "much" Republican, but with Biden-Harris or some other "not Trump-Pence" selection for President and Vice President.

As I said, I am not fully versed in the Lincoln Project, but I think that voting as I just described would not be an unexpected outcome of the impact of Lincoln Project messaging--whatever their complete aims or agenda.

I am only aware of some of the Lincoln Project persuasion-type ads that ran on MSNBC. They were 1000 percent anti-Trump. I'm not sure whether they explicitly endorsed the Biden-Harris candidacy. Or how they were intended to factor into the elections at all the other levels and offices.

Although now that I have jogged my memory, I think I remember Lincoln Project ads that were against Senator Lindsey Graham because of Graham's aligning himself with President Trump in so many ways. I guess there were other ads of that kind, but that's the only one that I seem to be able to conjure (vaguely) from my memory.

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sourmash DEC 19, 08:44 AM

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Originally posted by cvxjet:

So...Probably haven't heard about this from Fox or America one......Russia has been hacking all of our government and large corporation computer systems....Trump remains mum on the whole thing...My question for the good Trump conservatives is...How is this beneficial to YOUR party?

Some are calling this a "Pearl Harbor" style attack.....But I'm sure there must be some good reason for good-guy Putin to do this...Maybe if he can destroy our whole country it will kill the evil "Deep state"......Then you can get an ALL-Trump government (For life!!) with help from Putin......



No other nation interferes in our elections more than Israel, jewish mega-donors and Israeli dual citizens. https://www.timesofisrael.c...eli-espionage-in-us/
And government sources say Israel has the most aggressive espionage campaign against the USA and it's citizens.
Nobody ever dares mention it because MSNBC, CNN and FOX have been order not to tell their slaves congregation about it.

Trump wasn't bad, I mean for a Democrat, that is. Better than most of the DC Republicans and 95% of DC Democrats.

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theBDub DEC 20, 11:44 PM

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Originally posted by randye:




I didn't say that.





You can continue restating the same words over and over, that doesn’t change the meaning of them or your quotes in context.
theBDub DEC 20, 11:49 PM

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Originally posted by 82-T/A [At Work]:
What you should be saying is that "you remain unconvinced."




That’s fair. I remain unconvinced. I see it as two hills: one has to show that there is fairly consistent and widespread voter fraud in recent elections, and the second has to predominantly tie it to Democrats. I think the second would be harder.

At the end of the day, I do not believe at all that voter fraud caused Biden to win. If that were the case, Trump wouldn’t have had such a hard time in the courts.
Patrick DEC 20, 11:51 PM

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Originally posted by theBDub:

You can continue restating the same words over and over...



Geez, don't encourage him. He'll return using even larger fonts!
olejoedad DEC 21, 10:19 AM
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