The first 2020 'official' election prediction thread..... (Page 55/76)
82-T/A [At Work] DEC 18, 04:39 PM

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Originally posted by theBDub:

I already went through Todd's claims. Some were true, some were not, and some are hairy, but we can give the benefit of the doubt (I don't have any reason to suspect falsehood with regards to the nursing home--sounds terrible). But that doesn't matter. What matters, is you both stated that claims(1) without proof were presumed true, and you said claims(3) required proof. Claims(1) and claims(3) were supported exactly the same (until other threads either support or unsupported those claims). Your statements are inconsistent.




What you should be saying is that "you remain unconvinced."

There have been 1000s of pieces of evidence of voter fraud and improper manipulation by Democrat interests, most of which have been corroborated to some degree. Some of it has been misrepresented on both sides, but to suggest that all claims are incorrect is not at all being reasonable. You're totally entitled to your opinion.

I'd point you to the Epoch Times, which has done an excellent job of collecting pretty much everything. The site is right-leaning, and the titles are misleading... for example, today:

"Supreme Court Green-Lights Trump Removal of Illegal Aliens From Census Count"

...but the fact is that the Supreme Court just decided to not hear the case (effectively rendering it null). The article itself states this, and it goes into detail on how the Democrats can still re-file, and likely Biden would simply push an executive order and overturn whatever Trump is about to do anyway.

But I do recommend you spend some time on that site. It may not be to your political leanings, but it'll certainly give you quite a bit more information than you're ever going to get from the main stream media. Even Fox News (since it was handed down to the brothers) has been committed to pushing a narrative that is decidedly NOT pro-Trump.
Patrick DEC 18, 04:50 PM

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Originally posted by theBDub:

What matters, is you both stated that claims(1) without proof were presumed true, and you said claims(3) required proof. Claims(1) and claims(3) were supported exactly the same (until other threads either support or unsupported those claims). Your statements are inconsistent.



Don't try and make any sense out of randye's rhetoric. He just talks in circles hoping that no one will notice... or care.
olejoedad DEC 18, 06:24 PM

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Originally posted by theBDub:


Yeah, and to be clear, I trust this happened. It sounds like a terrible situation, and I'm sorry your grandmother went through that. Both from a health perspective and the voting thing. My comment is more that I can see how something like that would be hard to back up and prove even after the fact, in the case of trying to find voter fraud in an election.



That would be an example of 'someone voting in anothers name', which I was told doesn't happen.

No biggie, I'm sure it only happened in one nursing home, in one county, and only one State.
cvxjet DEC 18, 06:58 PM
So...Probably haven't heard about this from Fox or America one......Russia has been hacking all of our government and large corporation computer systems....Trump remains mum on the whole thing...My question for the good Trump conservatives is...How is this beneficial to YOUR party?

Some are calling this a "Pearl Harbor" style attack.....But I'm sure there must be some good reason for good-guy Putin to do this...Maybe if he can destroy our whole country it will kill the evil "Deep state"......Then you can get an ALL-Trump government (For life!!) with help from Putin......
maryjane DEC 18, 08:11 PM
How is 'what? ' beneficial to 'our' party?
(Define the word "this" in context to your post)

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Hudini DEC 18, 08:54 PM

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Originally posted by cvxjet:

So...Probably haven't heard about this from Fox or America one......Russia has been hacking all of our government and large corporation computer systems....Trump remains mum on the whole thing...My question for the good Trump conservatives is...How is this beneficial to YOUR party?

Some are calling this a "Pearl Harbor" style attack.....But I'm sure there must be some good reason for good-guy Putin to do this...Maybe if he can destroy our whole country it will kill the evil "Deep state"......Then you can get an ALL-Trump government (For life!!) with help from Putin......



You are making many assumptions that are outright false. Why on earth do you assume an attack on gov and corp computer systems by an outside entity is thought to be beneficial? And why do you think “Trump conservatives” call Putin a “good-guy” ? You really need to focus here. Seriously, you sound like a looney tune of the highest degree. And I have read your posts about your stereo where you come across as a normal rational person. Who is this crazy person posting the TDS bs?
cvxjet DEC 18, 09:07 PM
Well....I am surprised you have even HEARD of it since Fox an OAN hasn't even MENTIONED it......And you guys only listen to Russian-certified News outlets like FAUX and OAN. A number of my "Conservative" friends have been telling me how great Russia is, how great a leader Putin is, and how Russia is "The only Christian country in the world"...My Aunt (Retired Air Force) raved about how great Putin was- the only leader in the world BETTER than Trump....She also told me that Obama was a Communist/Foreign-born Muslim who completely wrecked the country.....There was something about the un-employment rate being at 80%......

You don't actually MIND Russia attacking our country, do you?
rinselberg DEC 18, 09:15 PM
Just over a year ago, the Lincoln Project was created. One of its co-founders, former Republican Party-affiliated strategist Rick Wilson. He was one of the guests yesterday (December 17) on the 11th Hour. Host Brian Williams addresses him with a question, and Rick Wilson begins his response with a quip that I venture that Pennock's forum member cvxjet would relish. The Trump enthusiasts among us... not so much.

This queues up the YouTube segment at 35 minutes and 35 seconds (35:35) from the beginning of it. The video is nonsense. It's just the audio that's being offered here.
https://youtu.be/nbhNTGpqy4o?t=2135

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randye DEC 18, 10:53 PM

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Originally posted by Patrick:

Don't try and make any sense out of randye's rhetoric. He just talks in circles hoping that no one will notice... or care.



Your buddy also thought that the rules didn't apply to him.

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Hudini DEC 19, 12:02 AM

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Originally posted by rinselberg:

Just over a year ago, the Lincoln Project was created. One of its co-founders, former Republican Party-affiliated strategist Rick Wilson. He was one of the guests yesterday (December 17) on the 11th Hour. Host Brian Williams addresses him with a question, and Rick Wilson begins his response with a quip that I venture that Pennock's forum member cvxjet would relish. The Trump enthusiasts among us... not so much.

This queues up the YouTube segment at 35 minutes and 35 seconds (35:35) from the beginning of it. The video is nonsense. It's just the audio that's being offered here.
https://youtu.be/nbhNTGpqy4o?t=2135




Lincoln Project aka The Grifters

Ask them how adding 10 GOP house seats and 2 state legislatures works?