Strength, critical thinking from being called mean names. (Page 5/10)
sourmash FEB 13, 11:51 AM
When a person on the right is labeled racist, sexist, homophobic, NAZI, anti-semite and forced to publicly apologize because some group shouted them down, they are never forgiven. In that branded state of illogic forced on them. They see the phony, supposedly right wing people abandon and then pile on them.

With little to lose they start looking around at the people they're grouped with and actually evaluating what those people are saying. What they find is logic. When they stop reacting in an emotional way they hear the message. What the find is that there are even right wing political groups with canard narratives who admit, Yeah, no, that's actually true. We don't believe that full narrative anymore, only part of it and we're the authority of that data. We just can't be allowing it to be stated because of it was still really horrible and it doesn't matter that people are/were falsely imprisoned or maybe even killed for disputing our side. We'll even make it illegal to discuss it.

So our recently unfriended thought-villain can't unsee that. They have to accept wearing the villain hat anyway. [I] What else on this side is a false narrative?[_i]

Now tell me, when are the rolls ever reversed? It's a one way path. More and more people are being put in that unpersoned group.

But those people are where you find real reporting and information. The stuff not allowed by the PC safety patrol. Plenty of those unpersoned people are full of crap on topics or even unlikable, but that trains you to critically evaluate even better. It's ok to ask why a topic is forbidden to think about.
MidEngineManiac FEB 13, 11:58 AM
If you want to know who your rulers are...

Just find out who you are not allowed to question or criticize.
sourmash FEB 13, 12:12 PM

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Originally posted by rinselberg:

You're giving that other forum member (the one that I just singled out, without using his screen name) some top notch competition in the race for Olympic gold, in the Boredom event.

I went looking for my "file photo" of a man yawning. It's a "gif". I couldn't find it. I'm sure it's there. I often find that when I review the images that I've saved on imgur(.com) it's hard to spot the image that I want to retrieve. Of course, I have quite a number of them.

You're drowning in abstractions; in an empty word salad of your own making.

Did you just describe blackrams (a few messages back) as "left of center"..? Where you said his "point" was "left of center"..?

The only way that blackrams is "left of center" (in a political or cultural context) is if the Multiverse speculations of certain cosmologists are reality, and there's some other universe with some other "blackrams" on some other online messaging board.



You consider yourself on the left. You don't dispute that, correct? A person is left when they hold left positions. But surely you don't actually believe that you are the only true example.of what a left of center person is, right? Because there are other members here who are lefties and are more full of vitriol about their position, to the point that it's likely that they would fraternize with antifa types like those in Portland.

Yes, there are people who apparently want to present themselves as the-voice-of-reason righties while espousing some eye-popping left of center positions. This is common on the right. Mitch, Mitt, John, Lindsey, George, George again, Jeb, Jared and on and on and on (pretty much all the leadership). Media tells people that they're conservatives, and even as long as they have common sense opinions about issues demanding appeasement (leftist, media approved exceptions that everybody must conform to). It's for the children, adderall. Think of the safety of the children.
rinselberg FEB 13, 12:29 PM


I see certain forum members with reactionary right-wing expressions and sentiments, imagining that what they're saying is important or insightful.

If only they could awaken from their day dreams.

This ceaseless harping on "the Left", to the exclusion of about any other kind of expression or thought . . . maybe it's destined to be the dominant political and cultural motif of some thoroughly dystopian future, but I doubt I will live long enough to see it. That could be year 2100. I don't think that the legacies of the Renaissance and the Enlightenment are destined for the dustbin of history any sooner than that.
sourmash FEB 13, 12:50 PM

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Originally posted by rinselberg:

I see certain forum members with reactionary right-wing expressions and sentiments, imagining that what they're saying is important or insightful.

If only they could awaken from their day dreams.

This ceaseless harping on "the Left", to the exclusion of about any other kind of expression or thought . . . maybe it's destined to be the dominant political and cultural motif of some thoroughly dystopian future, but I doubt I will live long enough to see it. That could be year 2100. I don't think that the legacies of the Renaissance and the Enlightenment are destined for the dustbin of history any sooner than that.



Oh, really?! Tell me then, this is a simple question; why are you and so many people on the left afraid to even acknowledge that you are on the left?

The Western world is accelerating well into the left, which perfectly aligns with the decline of our society, culture, morals, lawfulness, respect for other party's opinions/borders, economic strength and interpersonal trust. All are tanking.

Why would anyone resist that, right?
rinselberg FEB 13, 01:35 PM

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Originally posted by randye:



"Leftist Man . .." Or "Leftist 'Man' . . ."

Who talks like that? What planet are they on? I've made no secret of my proclivity for establishment, center left and even just unqualified left (MSNBC) media venues, but I also see more centrist and center-right publications like the Washington Examiner and the New York Post. It's not uncommon for me to find my way to "Red State" and small town or smaller city publications. And local news channels, where the Left-Right schism isn't all that evident.

I think I have seldom, if ever seen or heard the phrase (a) "Leftist man."

I'm accustomed to seeing and hearing references to "Leftists" as a group, often in stories about other countries, and sometimes (maybe a bit less frequently) the U.S. I'm used to seeing and hearing about "Leftist" or "Left Wing" politicians and activists. But (a) "Leftist man . . ." That's just bizarre. From someone whose world must be illuminated, for the most part, by fringe-right and reactionary right wing fundraising emails and right wing agitprop.

I scrolled down carefully, knowing it was a "randye" post, peering at the very beginning of it, just to see whether it would be the same old nonsense (it's the same image meme he'd already posted before, if memory serves me) or some new nonsense.

No one should think that I'm adopting the habit of habitually looking at his messages. That only happens on an exceptional basis. Less and less, I think, as time goes by. A numerical function that is asymptotically approaching Zero.

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blackrams FEB 13, 01:35 PM
Deleted just cause I don't feel like wasting the time or energy on this topic.

Rams

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82-T/A [At Work] FEB 13, 01:47 PM

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Originally posted by blackrams:

Deleted just cause I don't feel like wasting the time or energy on this topic.

Rams





I know you deleted it, but I totally understand why you feel the way that you do. It's nothing to be ashamed of. It happens to a lot of men. Also, that was really mean what you said about Jake. Even though you deleted it, I do think you should still apologize to him.

Also, thank you for the kind words you said about me. I don't know that I'm the coolest person on here, but I do appreciate what you said.


Thanks Rams...
blackrams FEB 13, 01:49 PM

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Originally posted by 82-T/A [At Work]:
I know you deleted it, but I totally understand why you feel the way that you do. It's nothing to be ashamed of. It happens to a lot of men. Also, that was really mean what you said about Jake. Even though you deleted it, I do think you should still apologize to him.

Also, thank you for the kind words you said about me. I don't know that I'm the coolest person on here, but I do appreciate what you said.


Thanks Rams...



Jake? Who the heck is Jake?
You sure you responded to the right thread?

Rams
MidEngineManiac FEB 13, 02:14 PM
You want to know why "the left" is called mean names ???

Because they think they are some kind of ruling master-class that gets to decide what views, and words, and flags, and thoughts, and beliefs, and, and, and are "acceptable" and they will decide what to do with people who refuse to follow their orders...They get to decide who will and wont be tolerated. THEY think the rest of us are merely minions with no rights, only "privelages" to be handed out or with-held by them.

Well, screw you commie !!!!!