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JAN 31, 02:38 AM
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What about omicron? These are the last three paragraphs from Ben Krishna:
| quote | But will HCQ [hydroxychloroquine] be effective against omicron?
I struggle to see the benefits of treating omicron infections with HCQ. In the University of Glasgow study, the researchers show that omicron enters cells via endosomes more so than other variants, but they do not show that omicron is limited to using endosomes. It can still enter from the cell surface. Using HCQ to stop omicron entering via endosomes would therefore only marginally limit the virus from entering cells.
To show that HCQ is effective against omicron, scientists need to infect cells with omicron in the presence and absence of HCQ and [demonstrate] a significant reduction in [the infectivity of the omicron strain.] If this shows that HCQ is effective against omicron [in vitro], it would be sensible to test HCQ in a clinical trial.
However, unlike in March 2020 when HCQ was first suggested as a treatment, we have plenty of [other] drugs to treat COVID including antivirals, such as molnupiravir and remdesivir, anti-inflammatories, such as dexamethasone, and antibody therapies. |
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Maybe you're thinking "Who's Ben Krishna?"
| quote | | Ben Krishna, Postdoctoral Researcher, Immunology and Virology, University of Cambridge. |
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"Does a new study really show that hydroxychloroquine might be effective against omicron?"
Ben Krishna for The Conversation; January 12, 2022.
https://theconversation.com...ainst-omicron-174300
There's no reference here to what "82" posted at the very top of this thread: i.e., the research report from Karin Ried (et al) that was published online on November 25, 2021, at Cureus. That's not at issue here. It's not any part of what Ben Krishna is talking about. It's in Ben's rearview mirror (so to speak) and so far back in time that Ben probably wasn't even thinking about Ried, et al, when he created this report for The Conversation. If Ben even knew about Ried, et al.
It looks to me that Ried, et al, was before omicron. "The trial was conducted in Australia and Turkey between January and June 2021." That's Ried, et al. And Ried, et al, makes no direct reference to "omicron" or "delta" or to any specific strain(s) of the SARS-Cov-2 (Covid) virus.
I won't say that this entirely obviates or obsoletes this discussion, as it has unfolded up to this point, but tell me that omicron isn't something of a game changer, without telling me that omicron isn't something of a game changer.[This message has been edited by rinselberg (edited 01-31-2022).]
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sourmash
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JAN 31, 10:28 AM
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The person I know who just was diagnosed with Covid19 by a doctor's office was told to take zinc by that office.
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Hudini
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JAN 31, 06:59 PM
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Dr. Stella wants an apology too. Remember the Houston doctor who said she has successfully treated covid patients with HCQ? I remember a few here attacking her.
Dr. Stella Demands an Apology after Studies Prove She was Right on HCQ
https://medicalkidnap.com/2...vaccines-not-needed/
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sourmash
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JAN 31, 07:10 PM
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At ALMOST every step the narrative falls apart. And the apologists just accept swallowing another piece of denial to offer to us.
And people think voting is an answer. These people vote too.
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MidEngineManiac
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JAN 31, 07:13 PM
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Its a flu-bug with a 98%+ survival rate.
Same as the common flu or cold...
Riding a motorcycle or flying an ag/photo aircraft has a worse survival rate than this bullshit.
After 2 plus years, I am gettin tired, really-really tired.
Open your hole at me about any of it, I'll just hit, say "**** off" and be on my way. Be lucky if I dont take a swing or rip into you.
Shove the mandates, shove it, fruck off and dont bother me anymore. NO means NO and the pharma's and thier experiment can kiss my ass
Covid or vax are gonna kill the entire population of the planet ??? (ya mean like it did last week, or the week before that)
Good, let them die. Then they will shut up and stop bothering the rest of us !!![This message has been edited by MidEngineManiac (edited 01-31-2022).]
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Patrick
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JAN 31, 07:41 PM
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randye
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JAN 31, 09:31 PM
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NONE of that has anything to do with Dr. Immanuel.
Dr. Stella Immanuel is still a practicing, board certified, licensed, pediatric and emergency medicine physician in the state of Texas.
She has no actions taken against her by the Texas state licensing or medical ethics boards for any violations or complaints.
She reportedly still successfully treats her patients with SARS COV2 using a regimen that includes HCQ[This message has been edited by randye (edited 01-31-2022).]
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Patrick
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JAN 31, 10:52 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by randye:
NONE of that has anything to do with Dr. Immanuel.
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Oh, I think it quite aptly demonstrates the level of fact checking (less than zero) done at that site regarding their subject material... which includes Dr. Immanuel and her dubious claims.
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randye
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JAN 31, 11:28 PM
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You can keep on braying like a jackass about that website, but....
....Dr. Stella Immanuel is still a practicing, board certified, licensed, pediatric and emergency medicine physician in the state of Texas.
She has no actions taken against her by the Texas state licensing or medical ethics boards for any violations or complaints.
She reportedly still successfully treats her patients with SARS COV2 using a regimen that includes HCQ[This message has been edited by randye (edited 01-31-2022).]
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Patrick
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FEB 01, 12:41 AM
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| quote | Originally posted by randye:
You can keep on braying like a jackass about that website, but....
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Better to bray like a jackass than to be one.
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Geez, look at the other articles on this site. 
