quote Originally posted by maryjane: How could only ONE person be charged with seditious conspiracy? What..he conspired with himself?

Maybe all the other conspirators are FBI agents.

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quote Originally posted by randye: <SNIP> I HATE LIARS AND PROPAGANDISTS

I am expecting an apology.



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"Violent online messages before Capitol riot went unshared by DHS, emails show"

quote The department's [DHS] intelligence office saw "significant chatter" in the 48 hours before Jan. 6 and concluded it was just hyperbole, according to internal emails shared with POLITICO.

I will tee up the first part of this report:

quote On Jan. 6, 2021, as a mob of Donald Trump supporters began besieging the Capitol, Department of Homeland Security officials reviewed a plea for help. Rioters had started climbing up scaffolding when, at 2:12 p.m., the Capitol Police requested information from DHS’ intelligence agency. That office monitors public social media chatter for clues on where violence might break out nationwide. A DHS official, whose name was redacted, outlined the request [from the Capitol Police]: “Are groups talking about taking over the Capital [sic] on social media[?] Are tactics being discussed about taking over the Capital[?] Tactics can include radio frequencies, weapons etc.” The batch of emails — sent from 2:12 p.m. through 3:12 p.m on Jan. 6, 2021 — show that in the 48 hours leading up to the attack, officials weighed what to share with law enforcement and ultimately proceeded with caution. In some cases, DHS officials worried that reporting violent messages found online could infringe on Americans’ civil liberties. In the two days before the insurrection, intelligence analysts had found “significant chatter” on an online forum, the emails show, but chose not to report them because they found the comments to be “hyperbole” and therefore protected speech. The excerpts from previously unreported internal DHS emails, obtained by Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington [CREW] through a public records request and shared with POLITICO, illuminate the [Department of Homeland Security's] response to the attack on the Capitol.

These are emails that were obtained by CREW and shared with POLITICO:
https://www.politico.com/f/...fc-ad7f-f67f597b0000

After receiving the urgent request from Capitol Police, at 2:12 pm, after the riot at the Capitol Building had already erupted, a full hour passed and DHS staffers were still mulling over whether to share any of their intel about online "chatter" with the Capitol Police. There's no indication in these emails that DHS ever responded in any meaningful way to the Capitol Police. I cannot discern from this reporting whether DHS had anything that would have been helpful to the Capitol Police at this late juncture, with the invasion of the Capitol Building already under way.

There's more online at Politico(.com).

"Violent online messages before Capitol riot went unshared by DHS, emails show"
Betsy Woodruff Swan and Rachael Levy for Politico; January 13, 2022.
https://www.politico.com/ne...-messages-dhs-527027



Remarkable reportage on a particular aspect of January 6. So remarkable that its inclusion in this thread veritably argues itself.

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quote Originally posted by ray b: btw there is a federal felony-murder law WELL HERE IT IS https://www.justia.com/crim...icide/felony-murder/

I know you think that this is your big GOTCHA! moment.

It isn't.

I'm not sure I have enough time or crayons to explain it to you so that you will understand, but what you keep quacking about is a STATE rule.

As of today 46 out of 50 states have the so-called "felony murder rule".

AS I CORRECTLY POINTED OUT TO YOU BEFORE....FEDERAL LAW DOES NOT have a "felony murder rule"

(See: U.S. Code Title 18 PART I CHAPTER 51 § 1111)

ASHLI BABBITT was murdered on FEDERAL LAND inside of a FEDERAL BUILDING by an incompetent FEDERAL EMPLOYEE

Any charges brought against any of the trespassers would then ONLY BE FEDERAL CHARGES brought by the USDOJ

Once again, Federal law DOES NOT have any "felony murder rule" equivalent to the rule in 46 states.

You remain WRONG "Lionel Hutz".



As I advised you before, stop getting your "legal opinions" from dopey sailing websites or "Democratic Underground" or wherever it is that you dredge up nonsense like that.

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quote Originally posted by rinselberg: The batch of emails — sent from 2:12 p.m. through 3:12 p.m on Jan. 6, 2021

The thing about Leftist propaganda is that, like common liars, it invariably contradicts and indicts itself.

While your fleeting attention is focused on your latest bit of trivia, the fact is that the inept Capitol police COMPLETELY IGNORED DAYS OF WARNINGS BEFOREHAND.


The inept Capitol police instead chose to make a panicked inquiry DURING THE RIOT about what was "trending on social media".

Now you expect all of us to join in your Leftist propaganda delusion that some sort of DHS "conspiracy" was afoot.





"...the report said that Capitol Police intelligence “received information from a variety of sources about threats of violence … and the large crowds expected … [but] failed to fully incorporate this information into all of its internal assessments.”

https://www.rollingstone.co...ports-jan-6-1281606/

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https://townhall.com/tipshe...n-interview-n2601717

"As Democrats continue to obsess about January 6, there’s talk about building a memorial. Is it for Ashli Babbitt?


She’s the only person who died on January 6. She was shot and killed by a Capitol Police officer, (incompetent) Lt. Michael Byrd.

Armed insurrection it was not. It wasn’t a coup. It wasn’t 9/11 or Pearl Harbor either.


Yet, the Babbitt shooting has fallen by the wayside partially because this is an officer-involved shooting liberal America has endorsed.

The officer was cleared. All is well, right? Uh, not really. There’s an issue with the follow-up interview regarding this shooting, namely that one never took place apparently."

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The coming civil lawsuit against incompetent Michael Byrd is going to be very revelatory.

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"The truth always eventually comes out and it is NEVER what the Leftist media originally told you." randye

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