What do we Fiero enthusiasts think about the Infrastructure bill? (Page 5/7)
randye AUG 15, 06:32 PM
rinselberg AUG 15, 06:50 PM
I think there are many miles of roadway in the U.S. where this could make sense, based on the number of tractor trailer trucks using particular roads and the relatively short distance that these trucks go from "A" to "B" and then back from "B" to "A".

I don't see it for long stretches on the Interstate Highway System, like all the way across the state of Kansas, or something like that.

It's very possible that Jake_Dragon or some of the other forum members in Southern California have driven on the same road where Siemens and the other partners set up a one mile stretch with overhead electrification as a test bed. They could have driven alongside trucks that were powered by current from the overhead lines.

Now I don't know whether that recent test bed activity, focused on servicing the container ship ports of Los Angeles and Long Beach, continues to this day.

I've got another YouTube video lined up--just under four minutes--that addresses (among other things) the concern that "82" voiced about the contact system or "pantograph" that the trucks use to draw current from the overhead lines. They are supposed to be able to connect and disconnect from the overhead lines at speeds all the way up to just under 60 mph. That's how it's designed.

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randye AUG 15, 07:47 PM

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Originally posted by rinselberg:

.... this could make sense.....

....or something like that.

It's very possible that....

...a test bed....

They could have....

They are supposed to be able to......







You keep babbling on and on about electric trucks in GERMANY.

You are a perfect example, a poster child, of why we DO NOT want Leftist Utopian Children like you managing United States national budgets for infrastructure.

Instead of repairing, maintaining and building new roads, bridges, dams, power plants and other actual infrastructure you Irresponsible Leftist Children will invariably squander the money on fairy dust, unicorn farts and magic beans.

YOUR STATE is a sad living testament to that fact.

The horrible condition of infrastructure and the perpetual budget crisis of every Demorat run state is sad living testament to that fact.

You lunatic children even believe that a bartender from the Bronx, New York and an autistic Swedish teenager are somehow "climate experts".



Leftists have a serious birth defect: They grew a wishbone instead of a brain.

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rinselberg AUG 16, 09:48 AM
In terms of stabilizing the Earth's atmosphere and climate, every reduction in carbon dioxide, methane or any other greenhouse gas that is accomplished in Germany, or any other foreign nation, is just as beneficial for the U.S. as if the reduction were accomplished in or by the U.S. itself.

That's why I am "rooting" for the Siemens eHighway concept of overhead electrification of roadways for trucking to take hold in Germany and other nations--with the proviso that continued testing and systematic analysis of the eHighway concept keeps having it looking as the best or among the best of all the available options.

I have a very summary, but also comprehensive 4-minute YouTube video that I can post--just under 4 minutes, a narrated 3-D animation of the eHighway concept--if anyone rejoins this conversation and says "eHighway."

As is my custom, I close with a somewhat randomly selected image that automatically scrolls my browser window after I use the Submit Reply function, and clears my video display monitor of any of the immediately preceding nonsense from the forum's number one malefactor.

There is much in this world that it's best not to see.

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2.5 AUG 17, 02:17 PM

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Originally posted by randye:

Leftists have a serious birth defect




Being born to leftist parents, or no parents at all, most likely was the defect.

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rinselberg AUG 17, 03:27 PM

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Originally posted by 2.5:
Being born to leftist parents, or no parents at all, most likely was the defect.



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According to a study by the Federal Ministry of Transport, the electrification of German road haulage on a core network of 4,000 kilometers could reduce CO2 emissions by 10 to 12 million tons annually when electricity is obtained from regenerative sources.


"New Partnership: Continental and Siemens Mobility to Supply Trucks Across Europe with Electricity from Overhead Lines"
Continental, press release; July 29, 2021.
https://www.continental.com...es-siemens-ehighway/

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FieroSTETZ AUG 17, 03:35 PM

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Originally posted by rinselberg:

I think there are many miles of roadway in the U.S. where this could make sense, based on the number of tractor trailer trucks using particular roads and the relatively short distance that these trucks go from "A" to "B" and then back from "B" to "A".

I don't see it for long stretches on the Interstate Highway System, like all the way across the state of Kansas, or something like that.

It's very possible that Jake_Dragon or some of the other forum members in Southern California have driven on the same road where Siemens and the other partners set up a one mile stretch with overhead electrification as a test bed. They could have driven alongside trucks that were powered by current from the overhead lines.

Now I don't know whether that recent test bed activity, focused on servicing the container ship ports of Los Angeles and Long Beach, continues to this day.

I've got another YouTube video lined up--just under four minutes--that addresses (among other things) the concern that "82" voiced about the contact system or "pantograph" that the trucks use to draw current from the overhead lines. They are supposed to be able to connect and disconnect from the overhead lines at speeds all the way up to just under 60 mph. That's how it's designed.




I haven't seen any of the siemens stuff yet, but I've been to a couple Tesla releases. Got to take a ride in a Cybertruck (not my cup of tea, but that 0-30 time is absurd) and one of their autonomous Semis (absolutely no reason a semi needs to be that fast!). I don't know if overhead lines are likely to take off, but I don't think embedding inductive charging hardware in places like offramps, parking spots, and at intersections would be the end of the world - you'd just have to worry about the teeny tiny tidbit of getting all the manufacturers to agree on one charging standard (right :| )

I don't personally care for electric cars and trucks, there's no "character" to any of the ones I've test driven while shopping - the Teslas are astoundingly fast in a straight line but there's absolutely zero personality to them. Also, if I'm paying that much for a car, the build quality needs to be miles better. Tesla needs to develop the tech, then hand the manufacturing off to someone else, like Toyota. Bumpers and roofs falling off on a car that costs that much is unacceptable.
cliffw AUG 19, 08:22 AM

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Originally posted by FieroSTETZ:
The only loser is the tax revenue from fuel sales, which needs to be supplemented somewhere.



Really ? The fuel tax revenue is supposed to pay for road upkeep. Which in your scenario would be less needed.


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Originally posted by 82-T/A [At Work]:
I'm not opposed to an infrastructure bill... but I have a few concerns and problems that I don't think anyone actually cares about:

1 - What stake do the states have in this? Cannot they foot the bill for some of these projects? Why is it being funded at the Federal level... is everything being worked a Federal road, bridge, or infrastructure project?



I drive around, a lot, and I do not see a need for any "new" road or bridge spending. Perhaps bridges as I do not know their ages nor inspection records. I do know that we are already replacing one major bridge, and others have been replaced or improved with existing funding.

That I know of, all repairs and new construction is paid at the local or State level. I do believe we should pay for ourselves, our needs. I am charitable and am willing to help others with their needs, if they strive to try to pay for themselves. That some entities use the fuel tax revenue and vehicle licensing funds for other "want" projects not related to infrastructure, RUCK you.

maryjane AUG 19, 10:33 AM

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Originally posted by cliffw:


I drive around, a lot, and I do not see a need for any "new" road or bridge spending. Perhaps bridges as I do not know their ages nor inspection records. I do know that we are already replacing one major bridge, and others have been replaced or improved with existing funding.

That I know of, all repairs and new construction is paid at the local or State level. I do believe we should pay for ourselves, our needs. I am charitable and am willing to help others with their needs, if they strive to try to pay for themselves. That some entities use the fuel tax revenue and vehicle licensing funds for other "want" projects not related to infrastructure, RUCK you.



Where the Money Comes From
Most federal and state road funding across the nation comes from taxes on motor fuels as well as general sales taxes and other levies.

Federal taxes go to the federal Highway Trust Fund (HTF), which supports highway and mass transit programs and projects, formula-based state grants and other programs identified by Congress.

Funding for Texas’ State Highway Fund (SHF) — almost $21 billion for the state’s 2016-2017 biennium — comes from several sources, the largest by far being the federal government, which supplies just under half of Texas highway revenue (Exhibit 2). The state’s motor fuels taxes and auto registration fees account for the bulk of state revenue




https://comptroller.texas.g...may/road-finance.php

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rinselberg AUG 19, 02:53 PM

"Every trucker who raises a pantograph raises my pantograph."
~ John Kerry, U.S. Climate Envoy for National Security


"Overhead electrification of trucking routes embraces a 'Back to the Future' philosophy."

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