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sourmash
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DEC 02, 09:51 AM
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Puerto Rico is nothing but a welfare parasite.
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Rickady88GT
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DEC 02, 04:27 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by Patrick:
Canada is a bastion of leftist liberals, or so I've been told here in O/T. However, I don't think I've ever encountered anyone in my social circles who is "anti-science". Strange. 
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What is anti-science?
I don't know of any group that denies science more than gender fluid groups. What side of the spectrum are they?
As far as space and NASA and on topic issues are concerned, my take on the issue is that it has nothing at all to do with denying science, it has more to do with a lack of genuine interest, lack of funding and a lack of actual return from the industry. At the beginning of the space race we had many returns and benefits, but now all we get are fuzzy/grainy images and bizarre opinions of what those images might be.
It takes a hell of a lot more than that to keep the interest up.
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maryjane
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DEC 02, 05:17 PM
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We get understanding and knowledge from the space program which the human species will desperately need in the future.
The problem is, people tend to look at "what do I get from it NOW? How is space money helping MEEE?
Unless one just has a thirst for knowledge, a concern for the future, and more than just a few brain cells, it probably has nothing for them because they choose to live in a very tiny and closed off world of their own. Such are Earthlings in the early 21st century.
We, as a nation, a people and as a global species need space exploration.[This message has been edited by maryjane (edited 12-02-2020).]
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rinselberg
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DEC 02, 05:28 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by Rickady88GT:
What is anti-science?
I don't know of any group that denies science more than gender fluid groups. What side of the spectrum are they?
As far as space and NASA and on topic issues are concerned, my take on the issue is that it has nothing at all to do with denying science, it has more to do with a lack of genuine interest, lack of funding and a lack of actual return from the industry. At the beginning of the space race we had many returns and benefits, but now all we get are fuzzy/grainy images and bizarre opinions of what those images might be.
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Hi Rick.
I will take a "pass" on the gender and gender-fluidity part of that, because it gets very "social" and "cultural" (and political.)
But I have to say that I think you are missing out on what's been happening in space over not just the past several years, but even all the way back to about 1990. It's a lot more than just some fuzzy or grainy images and "bizarre" opinions. The various planetary probes have created a wealth of hard numerical data about the other planets. ALL of the other planets. Even the minor planet Pluto (since it was demoted.)
It's a great big database of hi-resolution photo imagery, radar scans and spectroscopy data that reveals many previous unknowns about the atmospheres and the surfaces of the other planets. The planetary moons. The magnetic fields. There's speculation about the possibility of life on Titan and Enceladus (moons that are orbiting Saturn) and it's not just loose speculation--there's way more information to consider than anyone had in the earliest days of NASA and the first crewed space missions.
The robot vehicles that have been traversing the surface of Mars.
These decades of unmanned planetary probes that have gone all the way out to Pluto and beyond have created a huge amount of planetary science.
What were the very first NASA missions? Just "man in a can." Dramatic, because of the human presence in space, but these more recent decades of unmanned probes are so much more significant in terms of science.
On top of all that, there are the advancements in the scientific understanding of the Sun, and that has involved satellites and space probes. The one space probe that went very close to the Sun.
"Where ya' been, dude?"
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Patrick
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DEC 02, 05:31 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by Rickady88GT:
What is anti-science?
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Ask the person I was quoting.
| quote | Originally posted by Rickady88GT:
I don't know of any group that denies science more than gender fluid groups. What side of the spectrum are they?
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Perhaps This post will answer your question.
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"A top-ranking official in Hungary’s ultraconservative government has stepped down after being caught fleeing an alleged gay sex party."
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Raydar
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DEC 02, 06:19 PM
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I have a handful of close up pictures that came from a radio engineering group that I follow. I was going to post them until I saw that this thread has gone to hell like so many others.
Fsck it.[This message has been edited by Raydar (edited 12-02-2020).]
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rinselberg
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DEC 02, 07:55 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by [REDACTED]:
As far as space and NASA and on topic issues are concerned, my take on the issue is that it has nothing at all to do with denying science, it has more to do with a lack of genuine interest, lack of funding and a lack of actual return from the industry. At the beginning of the space race we had many returns and benefits, but now all we get are fuzzy/grainy images and bizarre opinions of what those images might be. |
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| quote | Recent Cassini images of Saturn's moon Enceladus backlit by the sun show the fountain-like sources of the fine spray of material that towers over the south polar region. This image was taken looking more or less broadside at the "tiger stripe" fractures observed in earlier Enceladus images. It shows discrete plumes of a variety of apparent sizes above the limb (edge) of the moon.
Imaging scientists, as reported in the journal Science on March 10, 2006, believe that the jets are geysers erupting from pressurized subsurface reservoirs of liquid water above 273 degrees Kelvin (0 degrees Celsius).
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So... is that a "fuzzy/grainy image"..? And a "bizarre" opinion, that there are geysers that are visible in this photo image that are erupting from reservoirs of water that are part of the subsurface structure of Saturn's moon, Enceladus?
IMWTK.
"Fountains of Enceladus"
NASA Solar System Exploration Online
https://solarsystem.nasa.go...ntains-of-enceladus/[This message has been edited by rinselberg (edited 12-02-2020).]
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Patrick
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DEC 02, 08:17 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by Raydar:
I have a handful of close up pictures that came from a radio engineering group that I follow. I was going to post them until I saw that this thread has gone to hell like so many others.
Fsck it.
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It's the same people who over and over again wish to make every freakin' thread political... as if there aren't already enough complete-waste-of-time political threads in O/T.
Raydar, if you change your mind... there are a lot of us who'd appreciate seeing your images.[This message has been edited by Patrick (edited 12-02-2020).]
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maryjane
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DEC 02, 08:24 PM
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Patrick
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DEC 02, 08:35 PM
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It's too bad they can't superimpose some kind of scale in the corner of the video which would give the viewer some idea of the size of the craters and/or of the camera's distance from the surface.
For example, it would be helpful to know if this crater is ten miles across... or ten inches.
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