Pandemic Ponderings... (Page 5/11)
Lambo nut OCT 28, 06:23 PM

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Originally posted by maryjane:


I feel you still do not understand the importance or even the function of wearing a mask. I am not one bit surprised that neither you nor the other family member got it, as your wife did what she was supposed to..by your own account, she stayed away from you 2 as much as possiblke and you stayed away from her.

Masks have, for over a century, been worn by nurses and docttors and especially surgeons. This proven protocol is to help prevent the spread of disease between patients by those medical people. The surgeon does not wear the mask, gown, and gloves to protect himself ..he wears it to prevent HIM from transmitting pathogens TO the patient.
The covid patient would either wear a mask to prevent them from spreading contagion to others, or isolate themselves from others. Others (including general public) even if asymptomatic, wear a mask to help prevent them from unknowingly spread the virus to others.





So if everyone that is sick right at this moment would just stay home, the rest of us can go about our bussiness as usual.
rinselberg OCT 28, 07:17 PM
Picking up from the previous message:

If everyone that is infected with the virus at this moment were to remain isolated for a long enough period of time (I guess that would be about two full weeks) for their body to clear itself of the virus--or if not that, then get worse and go into isolation at a hospital--that would (in theory) stop the spread of the virus to people that are not already infected at this moment.

But that cannot be mapped onto a statement (like the previous message) of "If everyone that is sick right at this moment would just stay home (and self-isolate) ..."

Asymptomatic transmission. People who have the virus but don't know that they have the virus, because they are not experiencing any symptoms, or think that the relatively minor symptoms that they are experiencing are just a common cold, or part of the now upon us as we move into November seasonal influenza. People with symptoms that may become more severe for a person as the Covid disease builds up inside them, but in the meantime, they are still going out because right now they are feeling OK or mostly OK.

These people will infect other people with the Covid virus, to the extent that they mingle socially or "work'ially" without adherence to the Anthony Fauci-endorsed (Zeke Emanuel-endorsed; Vin Gupta-endorsed; Jerome Adams-endorsed; Robert Redfield-endorsed; etc.) social distancing and masking recommendations.

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Boondawg OCT 28, 08:57 PM

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Originally posted by Lambo nut:


So if everyone that is sick right at this moment would just stay home, the rest of us can go about our bussiness as usual.



Listen, i'm the last person to defend the way in which you process information or the methods you use, or the incredible length of time it takes you to process afore-mentioned information.
But as a humanitarian, and more importantly, as just your average concerned citizen, i just gotta' ask....are you retarded?

No offense, really.
I'm just asking.

Believe me, it's not the "incredible handicap" everyone pretends is "normal".
Lambo nut OCT 28, 09:25 PM

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Originally posted by Boondawg:


Listen, i'm the last person to defend the way in which you process information or the methods you use, or the incredible length of time it takes you to process afore-mentioned information.
But as a humanitarian, and more importantly, as just your average concerned citizen, i just gotta' ask....are you retarded?

No offense, really.
I'm just asking.

Believe me, it's not the "incredible handicap" everyone pretends is "normal".




You asking if anybody is retarded is priceless!
maryjane OCT 29, 09:10 AM

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Originally posted by rinselberg:

Picking up from the previous message:

If everyone that is infected with the virus at this moment were to remain isolated for a long enough period of time (I guess that would be about two full weeks) for their body to clear itself of the virus--or if not that, then get worse and go into isolation at a hospital--that would (in theory) stop the spread of the virus to people that are not already infected at this moment.

But that cannot be mapped onto a statement (like the previous message) of "If everyone that is sick right at this moment would just stay home (and self-isolate) ..."

Asymptomatic transmission. People who have the virus but don't know that they have the virus, because they are not experiencing any symptoms, or think that the relatively minor symptoms that they are experiencing are just a common cold, or part of the now upon us as we move into November seasonal influenza. People with symptoms that may become more severe for a person as the Covid disease builds up inside them, but in the meantime, they are still going out because right now they are feeling OK or mostly OK.

These people will infect other people with the Covid virus, to the extent that they mingle socially or "work'ially" without adherence to the Anthony Fauci-endorsed (Zeke Emanuel-endorsed; Vin Gupta-endorsed; Jerome Adams-endorsed; Robert Redfield-endorsed; etc.) social distancing and masking recommendations.




Research and tracing data has indicated that 1 in 5 Covid cases are completely asymptomatic.


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20% of Coronavirus Infections Are Asymptomatic but Still Contagious


https://www.healthline.com/...n-spread-the-disease
rinselberg OCT 30, 12:08 AM
"My Cousin, Vinny"

Well... he's not my cousin. But Dr Vin Gupta spoke about the differences between Canada and the U.S. tonight (Thursday, October 29) on MSNBC's 11th Hour with Brian Williams. The difference, in terms of the two nation's posture, vis-a-vis Covid-19.

Spoiler Alert

Two minutes of video content from MSNBC
https://www.msnbc.com/11th-...k-detail-94980677702
maryjane OCT 30, 01:01 AM
Comparing a nation of 37 million vs a nation of 331million as well as a population density disparity of 3.8 persons/sq Km vs 33.8 persons/sq Km is not any kind of scientific comparison.

The 10 most populous cities (27 million cumulative population) in the US fast approaches equaling the entire population of the nation they are being compared against.

It's akin to trying to compare Sweden's covid protocols vs those of the US. Apples to oranges in both comparisons.
maryjane OCT 30, 09:36 AM
Back on the OP from Willie regarding grocery workers. This in today's newscycle says grocery workers' infection rates back in May was around 20% which was very high compared to the general public. Also stated they were probably 'superspreaders' at the time ..................undoubtedly because so few of the general public wore masks.

(it IS a relatively small study tho, evidently, using 104 workers from a single store)
Patrick OCT 30, 03:58 PM

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Originally posted by maryjane:

Comparing a nation of 37 million vs a nation of 331million as well as a population density disparity of 3.8 persons/sq Km vs 33.8 persons/sq Km is not any kind of scientific comparison.



I don't understand why comparing methods (and results) of COVID-19 control between metropolitan areas in the two countries with the same population density wouldn't be valid.
maryjane OCT 30, 05:51 PM

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Originally posted by Patrick:

I don't understand why comparing methods (and results) of COVID-19 control between metropolitan areas in the two countries with the same population density wouldn't be valid.



It's not just a matter of population or population density.
It's also about mobility.
Which country has more high density metro areas?
Which nation has more daily travel between those high population metro areas?

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