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DimeMachine
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OCT 03, 11:28 AM
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| quote | Originally posted by MidEngineManiac:
Do you know how dumb that sounds dude ?????
Go wanlk into a paint-booth, or an asbestos construction project, and see how far that bull-**** gets you
Go ahead, try it at you closest auto body shop...... |
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10000000000% TRUE I do think the cheap masks lower the radius (on average) of how far infected people spew the virus ...
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maryjane
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OCT 03, 12:12 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by randye:
The number of people who think that they are epidemiologists, physicians, public health experts or biomedical engineers because they attended the "University of Internet" for the past 6 months never ceases to amaze me..
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As should the micro managing of Covid for political reasons.
Whether one becomes informed from reading medical articles off the internet, written by many of the top medical people in the world or reading the same from textbooks or listening to them in university classrooms or assigned by professors makes no difference.
Reading conspiracy theories that have absolutley zero basis in fact tho, is a completely different scenario.
You and MeM are welcome to contradict the text I posted regarding particle sizes.
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Wichita
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OCT 03, 01:16 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by Boondawg:
The truth is, I actually feel sorry for him.
He is a product of his upbringing.
It’s incredibly sad. |
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I actually have a question on that.
A large portion of the population probably has experienced and upbringing that may not be ideal (whatever ideal really means.)
Trump is at the age and an era of upbringing (baby boomers) who experienced fathers (if they even had one as many died during WWII) that were strict and didn't show love and affection as defined by 21st Century standards.
Both genetics and your environment does shape who you are. But I do find it fascinating that siblings that experience the same upbringing turn out so differently.
For every psychopathic criminal in prison, they have a sibling that is not, completely normal and a law-biding and productive citizen.
Even ghetto kids, growing up in drug/gang filled neighborhoods without stable parents. One will be a gang member, the other becomes a medical doctor. Kids of alcoholic parents, one will be an alcoholic the other will never touch the stuff.
So it makes you wonder, how much do we do and become is really an individual choice that we make rather than blaming the entire circumstances of our being as a by-product of their upbringing and environment?
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IMSA GT
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OCT 03, 02:39 PM
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. [This message has been edited by IMSA GT (edited 10-03-2020).]
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maryjane
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OCT 03, 02:43 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by Wichita:
I actually have a question on that.
A large portion of the population probably has experienced and upbringing that may not be ideal (whatever ideal really means.)
Trump is at the age and an era of upbringing (baby boomers) who experienced fathers (if they even had one as many died during WWII) that were strict and didn't show love and affection as defined by 21st Century standards.
Both genetics and your environment does shape who you are. But I do find it fascinating that siblings that experience the same upbringing turn out so differently.
For every psychopathic criminal in prison, they have a sibling that is not, completely normal and a law-biding and productive citizen.
Even ghetto kids, growing up in drug/gang filled neighborhoods without stable parents. One will be a gang member, the other becomes a medical doctor. Kids of alcoholic parents, one will be an alcoholic the other will never touch the stuff.
So it makes you wonder, how much do we do and become is really an individual choice that we make rather than blaming the entire circumstances of our being as a by-product of their upbringing and environment?
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I believe that a great % of 'how we turn out' is based upon individual choices and life style/social environment a lot more so than genetics. Genetics in any lifeform cand and more often than not, be overcome by outside forces. We are not simply the sum of our genetic sequence.
The examples of siblings you gave are a good example of that, but it often works both ways. An older sibling may be a 'textbook' example of a 'good citizen' but a younger one may rebel against that stereotype after having the older brother often brought up as the example to follow. ("Why can't you be like your big brother Bob..get a haircut and get a real job" )
Inversely, a younger sibling may watch the older sibling get into trouble and poverty due to life choices and embark on a path that completely avoids those pitfalls.
I even see it in twins within my own extended family. One become a hell on wheels/run off the cliff into destitution sort and the other a professional with the goal of advancing in both society and economic security and stability. One be completely self sustaining and his brother or sister be a leech on the family their entire life. (There are 4 sets of twins in my family, tho some of them have passed away now.)[This message has been edited by maryjane (edited 10-03-2020).]
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cliffw
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OCT 03, 03:05 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by Hudini:
Now we see if the Hydroxychloraquine (sp?) Azithromycin, and Zinc do what has been advertised. |
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Maybe not. His advertised treatment is not that and, it is not FDA / CDC approved.
| quote | Originally posted by maryjane:
I can't say I'm surprised ...
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Why ? Really, why ? Truthfully, I am not surprised either. Because ...
| quote | Originally posted by blackrams:
I believe that eventually, we'll all be exposed to it.
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I do too. maryjane, you have posted that the Kung Flu virus is mutating and a vaccine may not be able to protect us.
You have posted that you are (paraphrasing) that you can npot believe that many are misinformed about the nuances of Covid. From me saying I can not spread it if I don't have it. SURPRISE, our "wizards of covid" have been all over the map on information.
The good outcome is all of the wrong people will be dead. This is the same song and dance as I heard years ago, decades ago. "Don't have sex and all venereal diseases will cease". The only difference is that then, we were protecting ourselves. We were not labeled as being unpatriotic.
| quote | Originally posted by Rickady88GT:
When the Trumps get over this, it could have an impact on how Americans views the virus.
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You mean the undecided ? The lost ? The Covid infection rate is minuscule, the death rate even more so. This is a panic demic.
| quote | Originally posted by Rickady88GT:
Time will tell if the tolerant left is really tolerant. |
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How much time does it take you to see the truth,  ?
| quote | Originally posted by Imnuts:
You can't say Trump hasn't practiced poor personal protection. |
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Why not ? Why did he not get it a long time ago ?
| quote | Originally posted by Imnuts:
He has also encouraged thousands of other people to not to social distance or wear masks.
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You have a right to an opinion. Of those thousands, how many died ?
| quote | Originally posted by Imnuts:
I hope this situation wakes him up to how serious covid-19 should be taken.
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| quote | Originally posted by Lambo nut:
Or on the other hand show everyone else that are running around like chickens with their heads cut off just how non serious it is.
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You said it for me Lambo nut.
| quote | Originally posted by Boondawg:
You can’t catch a hoax. |
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Right,  . No one ever falls for "BullZhit".
| quote | Originally posted by Boondawg:
But let’s say he was wrong about it being a Hoax.
It’s just the FLU, remember?
Remember? |
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What do you remember ? Do you remember my thread, My Wife Tested Positive For Covid ?
You said you had two down in your family from Covid. Did they die?
From my thread ...
| quote | Originally posted by Wichita:
I've known several people that had Covid-19, and everyone of them were perfectly fine. No real symptoms or hospitalization. Within 10-days for their follow-up test, they were negative. |
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| quote | Originally posted by Zeb:
My mother in law (78) just got over covid. |
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Reread that thread Boondawg !
Again, from that thread ...
| quote | Originally posted by cliffw:
It seems the 'death watch" is over. She had/is getting better since my last post. If she had gotten hydrox, that could not be a testament to it being a cure all.
The whole episode has really been a nothing burger. If anything, a longer lasting flu.
Me ? I have lived with her and am still negative.
YAWN ! |
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Synthesis
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OCT 03, 04:50 PM
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I have lost three people in my life to Covid. Two of them were healthy with no underlying health factors. No funeral. No seeing them before they died... They died with a nurse by their side, so I have to be thankful for small graces like that.
Anecdotal evidence is just that, anecdotal. Even if everyone *you* personally know that was infected made a full recovery, that does not automatically mean that the virus is nothing.
I am now positive for Covid-19 as of Thursday of this last week, symptoms starting on Tuesday, running a continuous 99.8+ fever with my highest peak at 102 last night, soreness in the muscles/joints, diarrhea, loss of smell and taste, nausea, and am starting to have shortness of breath.
Please stop saying this is nothing. To some of us, it may end up being everything...[This message has been edited by Synthesis (edited 10-03-2020).]
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IMSA GT
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OCT 03, 05:43 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by Synthesis:
I have lost three people in my life to Covid. Two of them were healthy with no underlying health factors. No funeral. No seeing them before they died... They died with a nurse by their side, so I have to be thankful for small graces like that.
Anecdotal evidence is just that, anecdotal. Even if everyone *you* personally know that was infected made a full recovery, that does not automatically mean that the virus is nothing.
I am now positive for Covid-19 as of Thursday of this last week, symptoms starting on Tuesday, running a continuous 99.8+ fever with my highest peak at 102 last night, soreness in the muscles/joints, diarrhea, loss of smell and taste, nausea, and am starting to have shortness of breath.
Please stop saying this is nothing. To some of us, it may end up being everything...
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This is some crappy news. Please take care and keep us updated. You're a huge part of this forum and the Fiero community.
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maryjane
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OCT 03, 05:50 PM
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Originally posted by maryjane:
I can't say I'm surprised ...[/quote]
| quote | Originally posted by cliffw:
Really..Why?
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He's made it a habit for months, to be out in the public and in private meetings among a lot people that like he, didn't believe in distancing or wearing masks.
Former governor and Trump ally Chris Christi has tested positive as well as Hicks.
Christie appeared on ABC's Good Morning America that day to discuss Trump's interactions before his diagnosis and what precautions the Trump administration took to prevent the virus's spread before Tuesday's debate.
"No one was wearing a mask in the room when we were prepping the president during that period of time," Christie said on the show. "The group was about five or six people in total................. Christie mentioned that the Trumps and Hope Hicks, a top aide to the president who tested positive Thursday, "seemed completely fine" and that he did not notice any symptomatic people during the debate prep.
Trump is believed to have contracted the virus from Hicks, who traveled with the president aboard Air Force One on Tuesday to and from the debate in Cleveland, as well as to a rally Wednesday in Duluth, Minnesota. Hicks began feeling ill during the rally and quarantined on the plane ride home, testing positive the following day."
I'm glad your wife is on the mend, but I doubt that she views nearly 60 days stuck at home with what you call 'a longer flu' as a 'nothing burger'.
Praying for you Synthesis!! Hope you get over this quickly.[This message has been edited by maryjane (edited 10-03-2020).]
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Synthesis
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OCT 03, 05:53 PM
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Thanks IMSA. My wife is also now exhibiting symptoms, which started on Thursday, though her symptoms seem to be limited to general aches/pain, headache, chills. She has a test on Monday, and I will have a second test as well to confirm Thursday's test results.
We are both high risk with health factors that may cause this to be worse than in other cases. I have a pulse oximeter and am watching O2 levels. So far things are good in that regard, even with the shortness of breath. Coincidentally, I was antibody positive in June after an extremely bad "flu" in February that exhibited all of the same exact symptoms except the loss of smell/taste. I was sent home from the ER twice with good O2 levels at that time, but severe shortness of breath and dizziness when I stood up.
When speaking with my doctor yesterday about my positive test this week, he stated that repeat infections are entirely possible with Covid based on what we know thus far.
Either I had Covid in February as well, or I was asymptomatic at some point in time prior to June.
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