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williegoat
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FEB 19, 08:32 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by Threedog:
This is not evidence. These are not facts.
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http://www.pewresearch.org/...licans-Happiness.pdf
| quote | Originally posted by Threedog:
The facts back me up. |
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You don't say....
So, you agree with Trump, regarding the media.
Now, let me ask you: If the press is not free to report the truth as they see it, why do you expect that we should believe the "facts" that you use to support your positions?
 [This message has been edited by williegoat (edited 02-19-2019).]
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Tony Kania
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FEB 19, 09:16 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by Threedog:
"I will ignore the facts because I do not agree with them."
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Unedited quote.
Nor is this a phrase I have written or spoke.
*Not throwing up rules or fear, just clarifying that I did not say this. Anywhere. I just don't get the leftist lies needed to slander another forum member? Huh?
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randye
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FEB 20, 01:36 AM
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| quote | Originally posted by Threedog:
.....the percentage of people who are happy in America is far lower because our system mistreats so many people that are not you.
You are thinking of this as a "I want to make you unhappy and me happy", no, I want to make everyone happy, educated, and able to work at a living wage.
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Where did you get the childish idea that it is somehow the government's responsibility or any individual citizen's responsibility or obligation to make you, or anyone else, "happy"?
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2.5
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FEB 20, 09:46 AM
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| quote | Originally posted by Jake_Dragon:
Its fueling a fire that will burn both side equally as much but in the end it wont be Socialism that rebuilds.
When it gets to the point you have nothing left you want to give up you will be all for having walls. |
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Regarding walls, with socialism in the end the walls are there to keep you in.[This message has been edited by 2.5 (edited 02-20-2019).]
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2.5
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FEB 20, 10:11 AM
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Did anyone flinch a little when he said "the jews"? Maybe because our awareness of what Germany did?
We should flinch just as much when our news today talks about different "groups", and blaming different groups.
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2.5
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FEB 20, 11:07 AM
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This is an interesting conversatiosn about the whole mess happening today.
From 35 min mark, a description of the way some of the identity group activists today think, and why its so hard to communicate with them.
Many actually believe science, evidence, and reason aren't legitimate.
Also they see conversation as something where they can only lose ground, so why do it.
Its the indoctrination of kids through the schools and media, even entertainment. Indoctrination of adults by twisting of news reports and fake news, and entertainment that they are winning. Social laws, pushing the stuff in the workplace, etc.
Conversation, truth, studies from science, reason, history, these are their enemies and not to be acknowledged.
This is what I see.
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williegoat
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FEB 20, 11:26 AM
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| quote | Originally posted by randye:
Where did you get the childish idea that it is somehow the government's responsibility or any individual citizen's responsibility or obligation to make you, or anyone else, "happy"?
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That is a common misconception or purposeful misdirection of the left. Whether intentionally or because of a lack of knowledge, some confuse the Constitution with the Declaration of Independence, specifically the following:
“We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness”
That all men are created equal, is a self evident truth. As stated previously, this phrase refers only to creation, nothing more.
The pursuit of happiness is a God given right. Happiness is not.
The left would have us believe that happiness and equality are guaranteed in the Constitution, and that the right to keep and bear arms and to the free exercise of religion are not.
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Jake_Dragon
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FEB 20, 02:08 PM
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I am at about 50% in my pursuit of happiness. Sometimes it doesn't end well and it hurts. But its 100% this Guy who is responsible.
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FriendGregory
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FEB 20, 03:46 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by Threedog:
Anyone brainwashed by anecdotal evidence of America's success should think otherwise.
Looking at happiness, life expectancy, HDI, freedom of the press, education, corruption levels...basically ANY measurable facts about life in nordic countries compared to America it is objectively a better society. And its not just oil rich Norway, Finland is easily included there as well. |
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Hi Threedog, as a near failed student threw high school, I think I fit a model of American exceptionalism. Even making a small income (less than half of the median income for the area(age29) at 24 I had seen my path to prosperity, by 29 I could see my path to my one million dollars by 50 years old. Step one, I had a goal.
"Social mobility in this country does not exist in the way you discuss it. Right now, it is simply not possible for the majority of people to make more money than their parents in this country."
You say majority can not but, I am about to reach above my parents net worth and my sister is above. I now make more as an hourly wage than my Dad did before he retired. My Dad was very smart and college educated. Thank you for calling us an exceptional minority.
I see it everyday, the young people that I work with. I talk to them, some take my advice other come up with their own plan, or already had an idea and started implementing it with my encouragement. If you need someone to help, someone nearby is going to be better. I suggest finding a local Dave Ramsey group. Nobody is the smartest, the more people to look at a problem the better.
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2.5
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FEB 20, 04:27 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by Jake_Dragon:
I am at about 50% in my pursuit of happiness. Sometimes it doesn't end well and it hurts. But its 100% this Guy who is responsible. |
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A certain percent of it is sometimes deciding to be satisfied.
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