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Trump has had the rep of acting independently, sort of without
regard to the old status quo. I hope he doesnt get any bad ideas
about gun control and act on them, or gets influenced and used as a tool to do
"bad things" for the U.S. and for freedom of Americans. Now or down the road.
Acting fast isn't the answer, "punting" on gun control it has been called.
He says some concerning things in this video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0QI6gT7zxXg
As the media focuses on taking guns and magazines from law
abiding citizens, they should be talking about kids and school safety.
Beyond that, why the kids are this way in the first place.
The quantity and frequency of "shootings" are irrelevant to taking freedoms from law abiding citizens.
We DO NOT owe it to families of children who were murdered, to take rights away from law abiding Americans.
Shooting someone is illegal.[This message has been edited by 2.5 (edited 03-07-2018).]
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MAR 08, 07:43 AM
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I think I heard where Trump has been talking about a link between violent crimes and the "shooter" genre and other kinds of video games.
Today on MSNBC's Morning Joe, they were talking about some of the recent and current video content on NRA TV. The NRA' s "Call To Arms" themed-messages.
Is there a "good for the goose, good for the gander" aspect to this juxtaposition (video games, NRA TV) that I have arranged here?
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MAR 08, 08:45 AM
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Gratuitous CGI bloodletting images meant for teenage consumption vs. strong talk among adults about defending our way of life?
Epic fail, brother.....
https://www.nratv.com/serie...3-this-is-who-we-are[This message has been edited by olejoedad (edited 03-08-2018).]
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MAR 08, 12:58 PM
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Regarding that remark, from olejoedad,
The NRA and other 2A-focused advocacy groups produce video content using adults as their spokespersons
Their video content is distributed on media venues where teenagers can view it. Including teenagers with personalities that are anywhere from troubled to psychotic.
If there is going to be more of a focus on video games of the "shooter" genre and other kinds of fictionalized violence, I would be very open to the idea of more of a focus on the video content produced by the NRA and other 2A advocacy groups. Are the NRA and the other 2A groups getting just a little too "edgy" or "suggestive" with their video content ? Are they putting out the idea to immature or troubled teenage minds (or troubled minds of any age) that maybe it wouldn't be such a bad thing if someone were to use a gun to intimidate or even shoot at the politicians or the people that are lining up behind this new proposed firearms legislation in the state of Florida--for example?
I can't get too deep into this line of thought myself, because I am not a gun enthusiast myself, or a "big" Second Amendment person--not saying it should be abolished--and because I have other fish to fry here, like the Special Counsel's investigation of the 2016 national elections and other lines of investigation that are related to that, and maybe Rising Sea Levels--still on my "back burner", I would say.
A couple of weeks back or thereabouts, I was sitting where I am right now, online at my very Internet-capable desktop workstation. The TV was playing at the other end of the room. It was the NRA's Wayne LaPierre speaking at the CPAC conference. My assessment: I credit him with two or three minutes worth of sensible remarks about 2A issues and background checks, and about 24 or 33 or however many other minutes of borderline lunacy. Blah blah blah, European style socialism, blah blah blah Bill O'Reilly-style culture warrior crap, blah blah blah perturbations in the orbit of the planet Mercury; etc.
I was disappointed that his speech didn't end with police and paramedics arriving to haul him away in a straight-jacket.[This message has been edited by rinselberg (edited 03-08-2018).]
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MAR 08, 01:14 PM
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Oh, you're watching Morning Joe... It's all making sense now.
You need to broaden your inputs, and take away more of the fake stuff.
Protip: If it's on an alphabet network it's suspect. The far left ones (CNN, MSLSD ) are highly suspect and nothing they say should be believed unless you do independent research.
Protip2: Independent research should not include going to the news sites web page, or articles written by that news page.
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MAR 08, 01:26 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by rinselberg:
Regarding that remark, from olejoedad,
The NRA and other 2A-focused advocacy groups produce video content using adults as their spokespersons
Their video content is distributed on media venues where teenagers can view it. Including teenagers with personalities that are anywhere from troubled to psychotic.
If there is going to be more of a focus on video games of the "shooter" genre and other kinds of fictionalized violence, I would be very open to the idea of more of a focus on the video content produced by the NRA and other 2A advocacy groups. Are the NRA and the other 2A groups getting just a little too "edgy" or "suggestive" with their video content ? Are they putting out the idea to immature or troubled teenage minds (or troubled minds of any age) that maybe it wouldn't be such a bad thing if someone were to use a gun to intimidate or even shoot at the politicians or the people that are lining up behind this new proposed firearms legislation in the state of Florida--for example?
I can't get too deep into this line of thought myself, because I am not a gun enthusiast myself, or a "big" Second Amendment person--not saying it should be abolished--and because I have other fish to fry here, like the Special Counsel's investigation of the 2016 national elections and other lines of investigation that are related to that, and maybe Rising Sea Levels--still on my "back burner", I would say.
A couple of weeks back or thereabouts, I was sitting where I am right now, online at my very Internet-capable desktop workstation. The TV was playing at the other end of the room. It was the NRA's Wayne LaPierre speaking at the CPAC conference. My assessment: I credit him with two or three minutes worth of sensible remarks about 2A issues and background checks, and about 24 or 33 or however many other minutes of borderline lunacy. Blah blah blah, European style socialism, blah blah blah Bill O'Reilly-style culture warrior crap, blah blah blah perturbations in the orbit of the planet Mercury; etc.
I was disappointed that his speech didn't end with police and paramedics arriving to haul him away in a straight-jacket.
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As the NRA is the WORLDS PRE-EMINENT GUN SAFETY ORGANIZATION, your assessment of the content and how it 'might be' misinterpreted by an impressionable youth seems to be a surmisation implanted in your head by the likes of Chris Matthews or Michael Moore.
Go to the websites of any of the "gun safety" organizations such as Everytown or Mom's Demand and see if you can find info on the gun safety classes being instructed by their members in your area. Find info on safety programs for young children. Find info on training programs that they sponsor for military or LEOs.
I'll wait......
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MAR 08, 02:05 PM
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Those Gun Safety-themed videos are not the only kind of video content that is being produced by the NRA and other 2A-advocacy groups.
I was making reference to other NRA-produced video presentations that are recent or current on NRA TV or other Internet websites. Video presentations that use titles or themes like "Call To Arms" and "Time Is Running Out." As in "Time Is Running Out" for politicians that are not adhering closely enough to the NRA's legislation-related views.
I am not condemning these specific NRA video presentations--I have not even any of them in their entirety or their full context. But if I were to have the experience of going to a beach and getting into the water, and then I saw some very young and still harmless great white sharks, I would be thinking OK, I'm not scared by that, but I wonder if some older, larger and more dangerous ones are just a little ways farther offshore.
The suggestions about this that I saw on Morning Joe could be like the tip of a somewhat larger and not so totally benign iceberg of video content from the NRA and/or other 2A-advocacy groups.
So if someone says to me--like Trump is saying right now--"We need to look more closely at video games", I would say "OK, but those same eyes also need to be looking at other kinds of video content."
Other contentious fish that need frying await me.[This message has been edited by rinselberg (edited 03-08-2018).]
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MAR 08, 02:15 PM
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Myself I'm a bit more concerned about due process.
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MAR 08, 02:38 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by rinselberg:
Those Gun Safety-themed videos are not the only kind of video content that is being produced by the NRA and other 2A-advocacy groups. |
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We were talking about the NRA videos, not other 2A advocacy groups.
| quote | | Originally posted by rinselberg: I was making reference to other NRA-produced video presentations that are recent or current on NRA TV or other Internet websites. Video presentations that use titles or themes like "Call To Arms" and "Time Is Running Out." As in "Time Is Running Out" for politicians that are not adhering closely enough to the NRA's legislation-related views. |
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Our country was founded on a "Call to Arms" , and the "Time is Running Out" for those politicians and States that fail to follow the Constitution and the Law of the Land. The average, normal, law abidding American citizen has had enough of the SJW/European Socialism expoused by the low-rated "news" channels that you seem to gravitate to for information.
| quote | | Originally posted by rinselberg:I am not condemning these specific NRA video presentations--I have not even any of them in their entirety or their full context. But if I were to have the experience of going to a beach and getting into the water, and then I saw some very young and still harmless great white sharks, I would be thinking OK, I'm not scared by that, but I wonder if some older, larger and more dangerous ones are just a little ways farther offshore. |
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Yes, you are condemning the videos, even though you haven't (viewed) any of them.
FYI, the sharks in the water are the Progressive Liberals who have been trying to destroy this country from within for decades as they pursue the dream of a One World Government. Globalists like B. Sanders, HRC, WJC, both Bushes, etc. Americans have no problem with the world being a place where people have rights and a voice, but don't want our country brought down to the levels of other countries.
| quote | Originally posted by rinselberg:
The suggestions about this that I saw on Morning Joe could be like the tip of a somewhat larger and not so totally benign iceberg of video content from the NRA and/or other 2A-advocacy groups. |
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You have a strong stomach if you can actually watch that show. I used to pop in to watch their morning circus, but the popcorn made me nauseous. I really don't appreciate people that are so condescending towards those with differing opinions. It's perfectly fine to disagree and discuss, but disagreeing and halting discussion has become a trademark of most media outlets, no matter what ideology they expouse.
| quote | Originally posted by rinselberg:
So if someone says to me--like Trump is saying right now--"We need to look more closely at video games", I would say "OK, but those same eyes also need to be looking at other kinds of video content."
Other contentious fish that need frying await me.
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I'm sure that MTV is full of video content that you may find to be needing of analysis due to promoting the sparkling virtues of self reliance, fear of God, respect for other humans (especially women) and rule of law.[This message has been edited by olejoedad (edited 03-08-2018).]
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