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| Beware of the 'Blob'.. recent U.S. weather extremes linked to warm ocean West Coast (Page 5/6) |
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williegoat
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OCT 28, 10:36 PM
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randye
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OCT 28, 10:54 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by rinselberg:
Drew MacFarlane for weather(.com); October 23, 2018.
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So you have a new fantasy boyfriend at the Weather Channel again.
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rinselberg
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OCT 15, 02:42 PM
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82-T/A [At Work]
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OCT 15, 11:49 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by rinselberg:
What's behind the weirdly warm and dry weather in the West, and the weirdly wet and cold weather in the East? Two studies point to a huge "warm blob" of water that's been lurking off the U.S. West Coast. The long-lived patch, which measures about 1,000 miles (1,600 kilometers) wide, is about 2 to 7 degrees Fahrenheit (1 to 4 degrees Celsius) above normal . . . .
For more:
http://www.nbcnews.com/scie...m-blob-water-n338766 |
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This past week, I've heard countless news stories about the power cuts that have occurred in California, and how dozens and dozens of people died as a result of it (mostly elderly).
The entire time, the blame has all turned to Global Warming, and also towards Trump and his inaction on Global Warming.
I have to ask, at any point, are the Democrats in California going to take responsibility for the problems in their state? The lack of generators at health facilities, the lack of land clearing to create a fire break and prevent the spread of mass wildfires, or even common sense things like redundant power systems?
California has become a total **** -hole. Absolutely no one wants to go to LA anymore. Since Snake Pliskin's escape, the place has only gotten substantially worse. Even San Francisco was a shithole when I was last there. The public restrooms (those weird computer controlled single-occupancy bathrooms on the main street) were covered in **** inside (even though they are self cleaning), there were homeless people everywhere, and the streets were riddled with potholes... which is amazing because it almost never rains, and never snows. Nearly all their cities are bankrupt, despite insane property values and tax revenue. California is quite literally, a Democrat super-majority. They have what... 17 Republican local state representatives out of a total of 80? As the Democrats have been able to continually push Republicans out more and more, the state has only declined further and further in every category you can imagine. They're even starting to lose "Silicon Valley" as the tech industry is desperately seeking alternatives in Austin, Raleigh, and South Florida. Upon seeing the disaster that is California, they're looking to everyone but themselves, instead blaming the rest of the country for their problems, or blaming the entire world.
I moved to Florida in 1996 when it was run almost entirely by Democrats. The place was kind of a **** hole. Over the years, it's become more and more Republican, to the point where today there's a sizeable Republican majority in the House, and a simple majority in the Senate. Over the past 23+ years my life has been centered around Florida, I've seen the state emerge into a paradise from what previously looked like a 3rd world country with a few bouts of advanced civilization.
California constantly has wildfires, and yet they seem totally and completely un-prepared every single time... like it's the first time it's ever happened. Florida gets hit continuously by major hurricanes, and the VERY LAST ONE that had any substantial impact was the one that hit Homestead in 1992, under Democrat Governor Lawton Chiles. Building codes weren't really a thing, and the entire city was devastated. You'd think that they'd fix this, but they didn't until Republicans got into control and they passed mandatory hurricane building codes (modeled after Miami/Dade) in 2002. Florida also mandates generators at all major health institutions, particularly those who care for the elderly, as well as hospitals. Gas stations which run generators also get annual tax breaks to help keep the peace during a major power outage.
Why can't California mandate simple requirements like this too so that people in the hospitals don't die as a result of natural disaster?
It just irks me to no end how California seems to blame everyone but themselves. Take two states, California and Florida, and you look at their progression over the past 25 years:
California - Democrat - Declining population, $hit hole.
Florida - Republican - Increasing population, paradise.[This message has been edited by 82-T/A [At Work] (edited 10-15-2019).]
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maryjane
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OCT 16, 12:01 AM
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I know for a fact, that much of So Calif has mandatory brush cleaning regulations in place and have had for years.
Each landowner has to keep a fire break area clear of brush all around their property. It's enforced by the individual counties and the fine for not following the regs is pretty substantial.
As far as gensets go....are you nuts???
those things pollute the air with both exhaust and and noise!!!
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82-T/A [At Work]
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OCT 16, 01:24 AM
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| quote | Originally posted by maryjane:
I know for a fact, that much of So Calif has mandatory brush cleaning regulations in place and have had for years.
Each landowner has to keep a fire break area clear of brush all around their property. It's enforced by the individual counties and the fine for not following the regs is pretty substantial.
As far as gensets go....are you nuts???
those things pollute the air with both exhaust and and noise!!! |
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I know the last part is a joke... but this is what I'm talking about Mary Jane.
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Map of State versus Federally Managed "public" land in California:
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Map of at-risk Fire Prone and Common Wild-fire Areas:
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The maps clearly have some consistency there. The State "public" land area, in which the fire breaks would be performed by state funds and state-sanctioned personnel... are not being maintained as they should be. The consistency of the fires in these regions clearly line up with the areas that should be maintained by the state. After one of the more recent devastating wildfires, Trump criticized Brown for not meeting their end of the bargain on wildfire / brush maintenance.
The past decade, California has continued to cut spending on wildfire maintenance, instead relying on the Federal government to put more effort on their end into building these fire breaks in the land-bordering areas. California does this while expanding *some* minimal funding in other areas to fool people into believing that they're actually increasing spending on brush fires. Like, they'll buy a couple of helicopters and then say they've increased funding for fighting wildfires. In response, Trump has threatened to cut wildfire funding for the state of California (since the state has shifted the burden onto the Federal Government), but seeing a potential no-win political situation, recanted.
As is typical with Democrat-run areas... they cut funding on maintenance, which in turn ends up costing them exponentially more money in the long run. Spending to fight wildfires in California have nearly tripled in the past decade, and California Democrats will quickly state this is because of Global Warming, but what they aren't telling you, is that it's as a result of their failure to maintain state lands. They cut funding on maintenance, and then spend three times as much fighting the fires that spread as a result of lack of maintenance. Pretty much everything else in California is run this way...[This message has been edited by 82-T/A [At Work] (edited 10-16-2019).]
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cliffw
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OCT 16, 06:51 AM
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| quote | Originally posted by maryjane:
I know for a fact, that much of So Calif has mandatory brush cleaning regulations in place and have had for years.
Each landowner has to keep a fire break area clear of brush all around their property. It's enforced by the individual counties and the fine for not following the regs is pretty substantial. |
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How Regulations Made California's Fires Worse.
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For a dry and warm state prone to fires, regular clearing measures removing this vegetation should be common sense. However, California has enacted several laws that heavily restrict such vital fire-preventing measures as logging, removal of dead trees, and clearing of dry underbrush.
During a congressional hearing in May, California congressman Tom McClintock blasted environmentalists for having fervently opposed such measures since the early 1970s. Instead, they have been advocating that forests be left to their own devices – despite the fact that thousands of years of history shows that forests need to be appropriately maintained in order to reap all their benefits and reduce the risk of fires.
When a 2013 environmental impact report advocated the benefits of large-scale vegetation management in San Diego County, activists violently rejected its conclusions. As in the decades before, concerns over wildlife and environmental impacts were ultimately more important than the safety of fellow citizens, with the result that brush and dead vegetation were allowed to accumulate unimpeded for more than forty years.
Ironically, 2013 also saw a range of massive wildfires across California that were exacerbated by the U.S. Forest Service failing to follow through on crucial tree-thinning projects. The same happened immediately before the recent devastating fires, with the U.S. Forest Service once again neglecting to clear brush in the woods around Los Angeles as originally planned.
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Forbes magazine weighs in.
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As timber harvesting permit fees went up and environmental challenges multiplied, the people who earned a living felling and planting trees looked for other lines of work. The combustible fuel load in the forest predictably soared. No longer were forest management professionals clearing brush and thinning trees. |
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williegoat
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OCT 16, 09:51 AM
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I have said this many times in the past:
Having spent nearly half of my life in and around the lumber industry, I have come to understand that there are two methods to manage forests, the natural way or human intervention.
The natural way is fire. I prefer the human way.
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maryjane
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OCT 16, 11:21 AM
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I was speaking strictly of privately owned lands, not public lands.
| quote | | Each landowner has to keep a fire break area clear of brush all around their property. |
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Willie is right tho. The adage in Calif, Oregon, Idaho and Wash State's ag/timber producing sectors has long been "Graze it, harvest it or watch it burn".[This message has been edited by maryjane (edited 10-16-2019).]
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rinselberg
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OCT 17, 02:15 PM
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The "BLOB" is BIG. The region of the Pacific Ocean that is "BLOB" is somewhere between SIX and SEVEN times greater than the surface area of the largest of the United States, Alaska.
The "BLOB" is DEEP. During recent years, the BLOB has manifested as suspiciously elevated ocean water temperatures from the surface, down to a depth of 1000 feet, although the most recent report that's found its way to my desk describes its current incarnation as reaching down to about 260 feet below the surface in the Gulf of Alaska.
For those who may wish to converse about the current incarnation of the BLOB using more formalistic terminology, it can be referenced as the "Northeast Pacific Marine Heat Wave of 2019."
"A vast heat wave is endangering sea life in the Pacific Ocean. Is this the wave of the future?"
Denise Chow for NBC News "Mach"; October 16, 2019.
https://www.nbcnews.com/mac...e-future-ncna1067456
~ includes animated imagery (GIF)
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