The first 2020 'official' election prediction thread..... (Page 48/76)
olejoedad DEC 10, 07:39 AM
I feel like I just hiked through a cattle pen.
sourmash DEC 10, 08:00 AM

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Originally posted by randye:
Commence AGAIN

Did you sleep through the past 10 months?



We haven't seen anything yet to compare with what will happen if the House gets to make the call.
rinselberg DEC 10, 08:21 AM

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Originally posted by olejoedad:
I feel like I just hiked through a cattle pen.
2.5 DEC 10, 12:17 PM

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Originally posted by sourmash:

Yep, and the riots commence.



Watch for pallets of bricks showing up in random places in more liberal cities.
rinselberg DEC 10, 05:19 PM
"Trump’s scheme for state legislatures to overturn the election won’t work"

Keith E. Whittington for the Washington Post; November 20, 2020.

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Federal law provides that members of Congress may state objections to the counting of the electoral votes from any state. The votes certified by the state governor are counted unless both chambers [the U.S. Senate and House of Representatives], by majority vote, agree to sustain the objection.



This might be the article that I was trying to find again. Where it says "majority vote." I think that means by majority vote of all 435 members of the House of Representatives. If the author's intention was to describe that other way of voting in the House, where each State delegation has a single vote, wouldn't he (likely) have made that more explicit?

Keith E. Whittington (we go way back ) is a professor of Politics at Princeton University.

This is the Internet page link:
https://www.washingtonpost....gislatures-election/

But I guess (maybe) that paragraph isn't relevant if the SCOTUS pleases the POTUS (and perhaps the FLOTUS, although I wonder) and decides to honor the "Texas + 18" lawsuit and throws the Presidential election entirely into the lap of the U.S. Congress?

Ta-ta.

[This message has been edited by rinselberg (edited 12-10-2020).]

randye DEC 10, 05:23 PM

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Originally posted by sourmash:


We haven't seen anything yet to compare with what will happen if the House gets to make the call.



If President Trump wins a 2nd consecutive term and there are widespread riots as a result then the Leftist's "smokescreen" that they used this past summer is effectively GONE

It will be manifestly clear that it's NOT about George Floyd, black lives mattering, or ANY of the other crap that was used as camouflage for their larval Communist insurgency.

It will clearly be seen as what it was and is. An attempt at a violent Marxist revolution in this country.

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sourmash DEC 10, 07:00 PM
There will always be another George Floyd, Traevon, Rodney King. When has there not been? Even when it's an armed criminal who gets killed, they will riot. They murdered police officers in Texas at a BLM march during Obama's term. Did you sleep through that one?
sourmash DEC 10, 07:03 PM

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Originally posted by rinselberg:

"Trump’s scheme for state legislatures to overturn the election won’t work"

Keith E. Whittington for the Washington Post; November 20, 2020.

This might be the article that I was trying to find again. Where it says "majority vote." I think that means by majority vote of all 435 members of the House of Representatives. If the author's intention was to describe that other way of voting in the House, where each State delegation has a single vote, wouldn't he (likely) have made that more explicit?

Keith E. Whittington (we go way back ) is a professor of Politics at Princeton University.

This is the Internet page link:
https://www.washingtonpost....gislatures-election/

But I guess (maybe) that paragraph isn't relevant if the SCOTUS pleases the POTUS (and perhaps the FLOTUS, although I wonder) and decides to honor the "Texas + 18" lawsuit and throws the Presidential election entirely into the lap of the U.S. Congress?
Ta-ta.



The House of Representatives scheme is not Trump's. It's the founding father's scheme.
Hate the game.
Hudini DEC 10, 07:33 PM
Let them pay for the damages by reducing spending on the police department. That should work out fine?
engine man DEC 10, 07:48 PM
for Contingent Election of President and Vice President

The 12th Amendment to the Constitution requires that presidential and vice presidential candidates
gain “a majority of the whole number of Electors appointed” in order to win election. With a total
of 538 electors representing the 50 states and the District of Columbia, 270 electoral votes is the
“magic number,” the arithmetic majority necessary to win the presidency.
What would happen if no candidate won a majority of electoral votes? In these circumstances, the
12
th Amendment also provides that the House of Representatives would elect the President, and
the Senate would elect the Vice President, in a procedure known as “contingent election.”
Contingent election has been implemented twice in the nation’s history under the 12th
Amendment: first, to elect the President in 1825, and second, the Vice President in 1837.
In a contingent election, the House would choose among the three candidates who received the
most electoral votes. Each state, regardless of population, casts a single vote for President in a
contingent election. Representatives of states with two or more Representatives would therefore
need to conduct an internal poll within their state delegation to decide which candidate would
receive the state’s single vote. A majority of state votes, 26 or more, is required to elect, and the
House must vote “immediately” and “by ballot.” Additional precedents exist from 1825, but they
would not be binding on the House in a contemporary election. In a contingent election, the
Senate elects the Vice President, choosing one of the two candidates who received the most
electoral votes. Each Senator casts a single vote, and the votes of a majority of the whole Senate,
51 or more, are necessary to elect. The District of Columbia, which is not a state, would not
participate in a contingent election, despite the fact that it casts three electoral votes.
Although contingent election has been implemented only once each for President and Vice
President since the 12th Amendment was ratified, the failure to win an electoral college majority is
a potential outcome in any presidential election. Some examples include an election closely
contested by two major candidates, one in which one or more third-party or independent
candidacies might win a portion of the electoral vote, or one involving defections by a significant
number of so-called “faithless” electors.
A contingent election would be conducted by a newly elected Congress, immediately following
the joint congressional session that counts and certifies electoral votes. This session is set by law
for January 6 of the year following the presidential election, but is occasionally rescheduled. If
the House is unable to elect a President by the January 20 inauguration day, the 20th Amendment
provides that the Vice President-elect would act as President until the impasse is resolved. If
neither a President nor Vice President has been chosen by inauguration day, the Presidential
Succession Act applies, under which the Speaker of the House of Representatives, the President
pro tempore of the Senate, or a Cabinet officer, in that order, would act as President until a
President or Vice President qualifies.
A contingent election would require Congress to consider and discharge functions of great
constitutional significance, which could be complicated by a protracted and contentious political
struggle that might stem from an electoral college deadlock. This report provides an examination
of constitutional requirements and historical precedents associated with contingent election. It
also identifies and evaluates contemporary issues that might emerge in the modern context.

this is copied from this site https://fas.org/sgp/crs/misc/R40504.pdf