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JUL 30, 01:49 AM
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| quote | Originally posted by Rickady88GT:
This is a good point. So do you know where the internal investigation is at this point. A deadly use of force investigation?
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That's a great question, Rick. And I'm pleased to be able to highlight a response from the U.S. Attorney's Office for the District of Columbia, in the form of a press release, dated April 14, 2021 and published on the U.S. Department of Justice website.
"Department of Justice Closes Investigation into the Death of Ashli Babbitt"
| quote | The U.S. Attorney’s Office for the District of Columbia and the Civil Rights Division of the U.S. Department of Justice will not pursue criminal charges against the U.S. Capitol Police officer involved in the fatal shooting of 35-year-old Ashli Babbitt, the Office announced today.
The U.S. Attorney’s Office for the District of Columbia’s Public Corruption and Civil Rights Section and the Civil Rights Division, with the Metropolitan Police Department’s Internal Affairs Division (IAD), conducted a thorough investigation of Ms. Babbitt’s shooting. Officials examined video footage posted on social media, statements from the officer involved and other officers and witnesses to the events, physical evidence from the scene of the shooting, and the results of an autopsy. Based on that investigation, officials determined that there is insufficient evidence to support a criminal prosecution. Officials from IAD informed a representative of Ms. Babbitt’s family today of this determination. |
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That's the first two paragraphs of the press release, which registers on Read-o-Meter at a very svelte and sustainable 4 minutes for a careful read of the entire text.
Access the entire press release:
https://www.justice.gov/usa...-death-ashli-babbitt
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JUL 30, 04:32 AM
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| quote | Originally posted by rinselberg:
.... I'm pleased to be able to highlight a response from the U.S. Attorney's Office for the District of Columbia, in the form of a press release, dated April 14, 2021 and published on the U.S. Department of Justice website.
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The Pennocks Purveyor Of Perjury is NOT "pleased to highlight" the rest of the story.
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The focus of the criminal investigation was to determine whether federal prosecutors could prove that the officer violated any federal laws,
concentrating on the possible application of 18 U.S.C. § 242, a federal criminal civil rights statute.
In order to establish a violation of this statute, prosecutors must prove, beyond a reasonable doubt, that the officer acted willfully to deprive Ms. Babbitt of a right protected by the Constitution or other law, here the Fourth Amendment right not to be subjected to an unreasonable seizure.
Prosecutors would have to prove not only that the officer used force that was constitutionally unreasonable, but that the officer did so “willfully,” which the Supreme Court has interpreted to mean that the officer acted with a bad purpose to disregard the law.
As this requirement has been interpreted by the courts,
evidence that an officer acted out of fear, mistake, panic, misperception, negligence, or even poor judgment cannot establish the high level of intent required under Section 242.
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| quote | Originally posted by Rickady88GT:
This seems like to much of a high profile case to be clean cut and over with?
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No Grasshopper. Never underestimate the deviousness of LEFTISTS with an agenda and a narrative to try to sell everyone.
All the Biden administration, via "Groveling Garland", had to do is simply focus the "investigation" under the right premise and statute, in this case 18 U.S.C. § 242, and BINGO! the conclusion was already made before they even started.
No "messy" criminal investigation under 18 U.S. Code § 1111 or 18 U.S. Code § 51 ...NO, NO, NO we can't have that....they went with a CIVIL RIGHTS violation premise.
They just COULD NOT have an DEMORAT officer indicted for killing Ashli Babbitt while NONE of their so-called "insurrectionists" killed anyone.
That wouldn't help push their narrative at all.
Their problem though is that NONE of that political trickery stops or even hinders the CIVIL SUIT that has been brought by the Babbitt family.
The discovery phase and the evidentiary hearings of that litigation are going to be very, very interesting and revelatory, AND it's not going to be centered on a civil rights violation with a predetermined outcome.
The plaintiff(s) do have a valid cause of action and proper jurisdiction and it will probably survive any Motion to Dismiss or Motion for Summary Judgment.
So NO, the case is NOT going to be "laughed out of court as frivolous" as "Nostradumbass" has predicted.[This message has been edited by randye (edited 07-31-2021).]
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JUL 30, 07:29 AM
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Don't rule out a civil case. Details never seen before can come out.
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randye
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JUL 31, 02:18 AM
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As of today, NOBODY has been charged with Insurrection or sedition or even homicide as a result of the MOSTLY PEACEFUL events of January 6, 2021
As of today, NOBODY has been charged with Advocating overthrow of Government (18 U.S. Code § 2385) as a result of the MOSTLY PEACEFUL events of January 6, 2021
As of today, NOBODY has been charged with Threatening government officials of the United States (under 18 U.S.C. § 871 or 18 U.S. Code § 351 or 18 U.S. Code § 115 or any local statute) as a result of the MOSTLY PEACEFUL events of January 6, 2021
As of today only 535 individuals], (<1.7 %) out of the >30,000 people attending the MOSTLY PEACEFUL January 6, 2021 rally in DC have been charged with a crime.
As of today only 35 individuals, (<0.10 %) out of the >30,000 people attending the MOSTLY PEACEFUL January 6, 2021 rally in DC have been charged with "conspiracy".
As of today only 35 individuals, (6.5 %) out of the 535 people arrested as a result of the MOSTLY PEACEFUL events of January 6, 2021 have been charged with "conspiracy".
As of today only 3 individuals, (0.5 %) out of the 535 people arrested as a result of the MOSTLY PEACEFUL events of January 6, 2021 have pled guilty to "conspiracy".
As of today only 20 individuals, (3.7 %) out of the 535 people arrested as a result of the MOSTLY PEACEFUL events of January 6, 2021 have pled guilty to any charges
As of today only 20 individuals, (<0.06 %) out of the >30,000 people attending the MOSTLY PEACEFUL January 6, 2021 rally in DC have pled guilty to any charges
As of today only 17 individuals, (<0.05 %) out of the >30,000 people attending the MOSTLY PEACEFUL January 6, 2021 rally in DC alleged to be members of the "Oath Keepers" group have been charged with a crime.
As of today only 12 individuals, (<0.04 %) out of the >30,000 people attending the MOSTLY PEACEFUL January 6, 2021 rally in DC alleged to be members of the "Proud Boys" group have been charged with a crime.
As of today only 1 needless homicide happened at the MOSTLY PEACEFUL January 6, 2021 rally in DC and it was committed by a Demorat with a documented history of mishandling his firearm.
As of today 1 unopened LEGO toy has been seized by the Biden administration as "evidence of a conspiracy" related to the MOSTLY PEACEFUL January 6, 2021 rally in DC
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JUL 31, 06:32 AM
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"ECHOES OF THE PAST"
"Free Germany from Marxism!" English translation of the "Mach Deutschland vom Marxismus frei !" banner seen prominently in this photograph from Adolf Hitler's first major speech as the German Chancellor, at the Berlin Sportpalast, on February 10, 1933.
| quote | Originally posted by randye:
Only in the sick, twisted, head of a LEFTIST is the ambush and murder of Ashli Babbit "justified." |
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Pennock's Fiero Forum; July 29, 2021.
"Trump and his MAGA Mob find their 'Horst Wessel' in Ashli Babbitt"
rinselberg for Pennock's Fiero Forum; July 30, 2021.
https://www.fiero.nl/forum/...ML/126499-2.html#p51
 [This message has been edited by rinselberg (edited 07-31-2021).]
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randye
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JUL 31, 07:20 AM
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| quote | Originally posted by rinselberg:
.....this photograph from Adolf Hitler's first major speech......
"ECHOES OF THE PAST"
"Trump and his MAGA Mob find their 'Horst Wessel' in Ashli Babbitt"
rinselberg for Pennock's Fiero Forum; July 30, 2021.
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Having absolutely NOTHING of substance or value to say you now childishly default to Godwin's Law of Nazi Analogies
Pathetic and predictable.
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JUL 31, 08:06 AM
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JUL 31, 09:58 AM
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| quote | Originally posted by rinselberg:
"ECHOES OF THE PAST"
"Free Germany from Marxism!" English translation of the "Mach Deutschland vom Marxismus frei !" banner seen prominently in this photograph from Adolf Hitler's first major speech as the German Chancellor, at the Berlin Sportpalast, on February 10, 1933.
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In another thread, you posted a video which included music by Richard Wagner. Wagner was Adolf Hitler's favorite composer. Are we to infer from that that you agree with Hitler?
Jeffrey Dahmer drank a cup of coffee almost every morning, therefore all coffee drinkers are serial killers.
The fact that Nazis don't like Communists only proves that even ill informed morons know that communism is bad.
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JUL 31, 11:05 AM
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People are putting history into it's proper places. It's always been puzzle pieces that don't fit properly. Younger people aren't married to the agena narratives of the past.
They get it quicker.
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JUL 31, 12:03 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by williegoat:
In another thread, you posted a video which included music by Richard Wagner. Wagner was Adolf Hitler's favorite composer. Are we to infer from that that you agree with Hitler?
Jeffrey Dahmer drank a cup of coffee almost every morning, therefore all coffee drinkers are serial killers.
The fact that Nazis don't like Communists only proves that even ill informed morons know that communism is bad. |
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It's not about "liking" or "not liking" Communists or "liking" or "not liking" some other group or idea.
When I let my eyes focus on a "randye" message, I see and hear a totalitarian mindset. He has no interest whatsoever in civilized online conversation. He conducts himself here like an idiot--to borrow the very same word that "olejoedad" decided to use against me, just the other day.
It isn't worth my effort to enlarge on this assertion and turn it into some kind of point-by-point explanation, essay or "chalk talk." I've already done that, numerous times before. If anyone isn't already "woke" about this by now, they never will be.
I've talked, of late, about how I navigate the forum in a careful way that helps prevent me from seeing any of his messages.
I estimate that of every 10 messages that are currently emanating from the "randye" account, only three are getting in front of my eyes, and that's mostly by my own choice, and not because I had a "navigation error." So I have him in a 70% "eclipse."
I think I am going to keep pushing on that, until it's a total eclipse or very close to totality. I think it's worth my going in that direction. Or at least giving it a try.
My "ECHOES OF THE PAST" creation, which is 5 messages back before this one, is seeming to me, at this moment, as kind of like the period at the end of a sentence that ran on for tens of thousands of words and more than 10 years. (I'd have to check on the '10 years" part. That's off the top of my head.)
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