The narrative that the Capitol protest was a “deadly insurrection” is falling apart (Page 40/110)
randye JUL 27, 10:42 PM

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Originally posted by Rickady88GT:


I watched some of this panel of idiots today. What a joke, even the people they called to testify seemed coached. They did not give an account, they read a script. As scripted as the entire circus was, it still did not flow. The questions asked were not answered, just scripted que cards were read off like rewinding and replaying a VHS cassette. Example: "What did you see that day?" answer "I heard of....." "also was reported......" and so on.
Political hacks hacking.



It's almost as though the outcome is already determined....

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Rickady88GT JUL 27, 11:33 PM

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Originally posted by randye:


It's almost as though the outcome is already determined....






I have faith in the system..........?
williegoat JUL 27, 11:58 PM
randye JUL 28, 12:05 AM

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Originally posted by Rickady88GT:


I have faith in the system..........?



Who's system?

Citizens are more than fed up with this long line of Demorat House "investigations" that are a waste of time and money and arrive at no conclusion other than political.

I am confident that Thermidor will come next year and control of both the House and Senate will go to Republicans

Bumbles Biden and Laughing Hyena Harris will be a "one hit wonder" and the damage that they their handlers can do to this country will be limited.

There will be no Supreme Court "packing" and there will be no stupid, moribund, attempts of statehood for D.C.
randye JUL 28, 12:07 AM


As of today, NOBODY has been charged with Insurrection or sedition or even homicide as a result of the MOSTLY PEACEFUL events of January 6, 2021

As of today, NOBODY has been charged with Advocating overthrow of Government (18 U.S. Code § 2385) as a result of the MOSTLY PEACEFUL events of January 6, 2021

As of today, NOBODY has been charged with Threatening government officials of the United States (under 18 U.S.C. § 871 or 18 U.S. Code § 351 or 18 U.S. Code § 115 or any local statute) as a result of the MOSTLY PEACEFUL events of January 6, 2021

As of today only 535 individuals], (<1.7 %) out of the >30,000 people attending the MOSTLY PEACEFUL January 6, 2021 rally in DC have been charged with a crime.

As of today only 35 individuals, (<0.10 %) out of the >30,000 people attending the MOSTLY PEACEFUL January 6, 2021 rally in DC have been charged with "conspiracy".

As of today only 35 individuals, (6.5 %) out of the 535 people arrested as a result of the MOSTLY PEACEFUL events of January 6, 2021 have been charged with "conspiracy".

As of today only 3 individuals, (0.5 %) out of the 535 people arrested as a result of the MOSTLY PEACEFUL events of January 6, 2021 have pled guilty to "conspiracy".

As of today only 20 individuals, (3.7 %) out of the 535 people arrested as a result of the MOSTLY PEACEFUL events of January 6, 2021 have pled guilty to any charges

As of today only 20 individuals, (<0.06 %) out of the >30,000 people attending the MOSTLY PEACEFUL January 6, 2021 rally in DC have pled guilty to any charges

As of today only 17 individuals, (<0.05 %) out of the >30,000 people attending the MOSTLY PEACEFUL January 6, 2021 rally in DC alleged to be members of the "Oath Keepers" group have been charged with a crime.

As of today only 12 individuals, (<0.04 %) out of the >30,000 people attending the MOSTLY PEACEFUL January 6, 2021 rally in DC alleged to be members of the "Proud Boys" group have been charged with a crime.

As of today 1 unopened LEGO toy has been seized by the Biden administration as "evidence of a conspiracy" related to the MOSTLY PEACEFUL January 6, 2021 rally in DC
randye JUL 28, 12:26 AM

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rinselberg JUL 28, 07:51 AM
The testimony from the two Capitol Police officers and the two Metropolitan DC policer officers was like the warmup tosses from a pitcher before the inning actually begins.



Have some Neal Katyal, whydoncha.

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RandomTask JUL 28, 09:11 AM

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Originally posted by rinselberg:

Metropolitan DC police officer Nick Fanone--now former Metropolitan DC police officer Nick Fanone--was assaulted by some of the rioters, and part of what happened to him was being tasered by rioters multiple times and then being diagnosed (afterwards, I guess) as having suffered a mild heart attack. Obviously, the multiple taser impacts or the other ways in which he was assaulted couldn't possibly have had anything to do with his being diagnosed as having suffered a heart attack.

He suffered some neurological damage--not too severe, apparently, but tangible--and is still recovering from that, or maybe just has to live with it for the rest of his life.

Do you find this accounting of what happened to him on Jan. 6 believable? That's what he has been saying about what happened to him on Jan. 6. Do you think he is lying, or exaggerating?

I don't "get" why you are talking about tens of thousands of people having been tortured and worse, since the 9-11 attacks. Tens of thousands of people around the world? Tens of thousands of people in parts of the world where Islamic extremism has been taking a large toll? Tens of thousands of people right here in the United States?

It's hard for me to believe that you haven't seen any video (or even just photographs) of the violence that took place on Jan. 6 outside and inside the Capitol Building, where rioters were violently assaulting the police with the palms of their hands (pushing and shoving), their fists, their shoe or boot-clad feet and improvised weapons (including metal flag poles) to get past the police and into the Capitol Building, and once inside the Capitol Building, to penetrate deeper into the Capitol Building's working spaces where the Vice President, the Senators and Congressmen and women and their staff persons and aides were located.

If that's what you dismissively categorize as "trespassing", then I go back to my earlier figure of speech. I guess you probably would call what happened to Hiroshima an "atmospheric disturbance."

I don't think you're making any sense.



You forget who you're talking with. -Most- Trumpers are capable of instantly rejecting reality. If it doesn't suit their narrative, they dismiss it. Trump has been nurturing this behavior forever, eg "Fake News!"

It's literally on camera of officers getting beaten. . . "meh, that's peaceful protest!"

Officers are testifying what they dealt with. . "Oh, they're a bunch of liars!" Trumpers are "thin blue line" until they want to break the law without consequences, then it's "**** the cops!" It's the same way they're "Pro-military" until tons of military top brass speak out against trumps temperament. . . then "**** those traitors!." It shows their care of someone is directly linked to their political value.

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2.5 JUL 28, 10:47 AM

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Originally posted by RandomTask:

You forget who you're talking with. -Most- X are capable of instantly rejecting reality. If it doesn't suit their narrative, they dismiss it. X has been nurturing this behavior forever, eg "Fake News!"




You are not immune to ignoring facts. You do not argue with details but would rather claim its just because they are "Trumpers", similar to claims they are just "racist" or "Nazis" or similar.
Which news is "fake"? We should all be the judge, on an individual story basis, that is what thinking is. Also stories can be real with a slanted or completely contrary premise and frame. Or the "news" can attempt to silence dissent and those who disagree, whether by literally removing their voice or by shouting them down as "Trupmers, racist" or "Nazis" for example. Individuals can do this too, case in point.
History tells the tales of where this leads.
RandomTask JUL 28, 11:56 AM

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Originally posted by 2.5:


You are not immune to ignoring facts. You do not argue with details but would rather claim its just because they are "Trumpers", similar to claims they are just "racist" or "Nazis" or similar.
Which news is "fake"? We should all be the judge, on an individual story basis, that is what thinking is. Also stories can be real with a slanted or completely contrary premise and frame. Or the "news" can attempt to silence dissent and those who disagree, whether by literally removing their voice or by shouting them down as "Trupmers, racist" or "Nazis" for example. Individuals can do this too, case in point.
History tells the tales of where this leads.



Sure!

The fact that this entire issue was based off the lie purported by Trump; that the election was stolen from him via some massive election fraud scheme. That fact that when the rioters were marching on the Capitol they were chanting "Stop the steal!". That fact that rioters wanted Mike Pence to not certify the election and when he did they started chanting "Hang Mike Pence!"

That fact that dozens of court cases from Trumps legal team challenging the election results have been thrown out for lacking credibility. The fact that Trumps lawyers will say one thing in the public eye but when under oath and facing legal ramifications, say something entirely different. That fact that their tortious campaign was done with such mal intent they've had their law license removed and face disbarment.

That even after all this, a lot of Trump supporters still believe the election was stolen and want to excuse the behavior of those who stormed the capitol.

Trump played on the racial aspect of Obama suggesting he wasn't born in the US. Remember when Trump stated he found all sorts of things with his PI's about Obamas birth certificate? Trump makes these allegations, then never backs them up; he knows he's already got the crowd riled up. Just like he promised to release his tax returns but never did. Just like he promised to release his health care plan but never did. The fact that Trump claimed he won the popular vote in 2016 and established a committee to prove it only to disband that committee shortly there after since they couldn't find anything to support his claims.

So when Biden won, Trump can't do the race thing because of the fact Biden is a geriatric white dude who should have been put to pasture long ago. . . Trump has to suggest his presidency is illegitimate via other means.