Aircraft story.... (Page 4/7)
Valkrie9 AUG 18, 12:07 AM



' Whew ! It's a story that parallels the CF105 Arrow ! '
Political intrigue that ruined the effort to defend the Nation.
What today would be a giant defense industry, building modern military aircraft for worldwide clients, a composite 105, a Carbon 105, twice as fast, stealthy, lighter, stronger.
' Woulda, shoulda, coulda ! ' Didn't, ' Nuts ! '
The dastardly effects of Soviet military intelligence penetration within Canadian political power, the only benefactor to the cancellation, the Arrows designed to destroy their aggression.
A sharper weapon.

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NewDustin AUG 22, 11:15 AM

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Originally posted by Valkrie9:

' Woulda, shoulda, coulda ! ' Didn't, ' Nuts ! '




I have a weird sense of nostalgia for post WWII aviation that this actually harmonizes with. To a large extent I feel like the Russians never stopped trying to make the next bigger, faster, cooler version of things, while we went a...different route. It's still cool, and I can't hate on the F-35s efficacy, but it's missing all of the raw "YEEEAAAH!" of airframes like the X-15 and the Valkyrie. Something about networked information sharing, fast drones, and stealth just doesn't hit the same, no matter how much of an improvement it is on an actual battlefield.
williegoat AUG 22, 11:46 AM

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Originally posted by NewDustin:


I have a weird sense of nostalgia for post WWII aviation that this actually harmonizes with. To a large extent I feel like the Russians never stopped trying to make the next bigger, faster, cooler version of things, while we went a...different route. It's still cool, and I can't hate on the F-35s efficacy, but it's missing all of the raw "YEEEAAAH!" of airframes like the X-15 and the Valkyrie. Something about networked information sharing, fast drones, and stealth just doesn't hit the same, no matter how much of an improvement it is on an actual battlefield.


If you compare Soviet era jets to American jets of the same era, it is obvious that the Americans understood the value of appearance as an intimidation factor. The American fighters "looked the part".

Modern jets are like modern race cars. A modern Le Mans car looks like crap compared to those of the '60s.

Just the opinion of an old retired gearjammer
NewDustin AUG 22, 01:23 PM

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Originally posted by williegoat:

If you compare Soviet era jets to American jets of the same era, it is obvious that the Americans understood the value of appearance as an intimidation factor. The American fighters "looked the part".

Modern jets are like modern race cars. A modern Le Mans car looks like crap compared to those of the '60s.

Just the opinion of an old retired gearjammer



I agree the American jets all look WAY better through the 50s - early 60s. By the mid 60s though....the Flogger and the Foxbat both look pretty awesome. And by that time the big Ekranoplans were cruising around the Caspian, and ugly as they are they are extremely hard to beat in cool factor for me.

Patrick AUG 22, 05:54 PM

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Originally posted by NewDustin:

...and ugly as they are they are extremely hard to beat in cool factor for me.



You might enjoy what you'll find if you run a google search for steampunk aircraft images.

















Valkrie9 AUG 23, 03:25 AM

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Clockwork Dolls
Maiden Voyage
The Adventures of Baron Munchausen
World's Fair1900, Paris, France, the Palais du Trocadero.
Patrick AUG 23, 04:14 AM
John Carter, eh? Okay, I'm intrigued. I've reserved the DVD at my local library. And for good measure, I also reserved the Blu-ray of The Adventures of Baron Munchausen.

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Valkrie9 AUG 23, 08:40 AM

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Having read the books, I enjoyed the movies.
The Adventures of Baron Munchhausen is a now classic tale of the impossible feats of an enlightenment hero.
The opening scene is perhaps the most memorable of all.
There was this guy.. joined the Continental Army in '76 at Philadelphia, did all those things, and why the story resonates as plausible.
Took a dozen or so family children to a showing on a big 70mm screen ~ '90, they, all as preteens were dazzled, mesmerized, as was I.
Outstanding film, the Sultan's Harem scenes are epic.
Then there's Uma Thurman..
' Unngghh ! '



' He won't get far on hot air and fantasy '


This Guy.. '76

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Valkrie9 AUG 23, 09:47 AM

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Twin engine, all weather, fighter-bomber, high above the mountains on the frontier.
Steampunk of the '50s.
cvxjet AUG 23, 12:49 PM
The John Carter movie is pretty good- but the beginning is a little...befuddled; In the book he is trying to escape Indians and then goes in cave and winds up on Barsoom (Mars)...Much more straight-forward.

By far my favorite book by ERB is "At the Earth's Core" (The movie sucks azz- Do not waste your time) (Only good thing about the movie is Caroline Munro)

That story is about the Earth being hollow- and a whole world is on the inside of the earth's shell- the "Sun" is the radiative core hanging in the center...two things I thought were really interesting- A) There is no horizon...you keep looking farther away and soon are looking up.....and everything in the distance disappears into mist or haze. B) There is no way to "Tell time" because the "sun" does not move; The main character escapes the Mahars (Who control the inner world) and goes to an island- goes thru many adventures then comes back to help his friend- and finds that his friend has just been reading old manuscripts and just eaten ONE meal during that same time

Not real "big" on steam-punk...I did watch Wild Wild West when l was a kid- best part in that show was Artemis Gordon played by Ross Martin...And one of my favorite shows is The Adventures of Brisco County starring Bruce Campbell (and a bunch of old western stars + John Astin)